What Change, Specifically, is Obama Talking About? (reform, Zen)

[tomspug]

I'm glad to finally see some links to stances Obama has. Why doesn't he bring these up in debates?

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by tomspug

I'm glad to finally see some links to stances Obama has. Why doesn't he bring these up in debates?

Everything is going so well for him, why mess it up with facts?

[nutshell]

He does bring up his stances. You're just selectively listening.

[MidnightBlue]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

Preserving, rather than undermining, constitutional protections,

I'm hoping that a return to constitutional government will be one of the "new" ideas he really puts into action.

[Reverend Rick]

Barrack Obama is all things to all people. He has achieved rock star status. People swoon over him and even faint. He is an eloquent speaker and has a mystical similarity to John Kennedy.

He is kicking Hillary's butt and will be the democratic nominee. He is the Messiah of the down trodden people and will right every wrong and will dare to persevere. He will come across party lines to bring about this change he keeps talking about all the while holding the title as the most Liberal candidate. He is the friend of the Mexican immigrant but wants secure borders. He is for women's rights, just not a woman president. He is for hard work and sacrifice, but wants to penalize the sucessful among us and reward the underachievers. He believes government is the solution, not the problem. He is going to do so much for so many for so long AND balance the budget.

There is an old saying, if it sounds too good to be true...........

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

And making America less safe.

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (attributed to) Benjamin Franklin. We didn't really need that pesky old Constitution anyway, with all those annoying limitations on government action. Let's get rid of it; that will be more convenient.

The terrorists love his plan.

I think the terrorists love that we're spending billions fighting the wrong people, and not making any effort to capture their leader, who is in another country altogether.

Give health care to one group and let another group pay for it.

Not anything I mentioned, why are you bringing it up?

We are not an international community. We are a sovereign nation that answers to no one.

That sounds like a good way to lose any possible influence we might have in the world, and lead the country into the oblivion where it is now heading.

So instead of a war we can't afford we will have health care we can't afford. So much for the budget.

Well, if those are the only two choices, I'll go with the health care; at least we get something out of it. The only thing we get out of the war is a bunch of dead people and decreased security.

[Autodidact]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Barrack Obama is all things to all people. He has achieved rock star status. People swoon over him and even faint. He is an eloquent speaker and has a mystical similarity to John Kennedy.

He is kicking Hillary's butt and will be the democratic nominee. He is the Messiah of the down trodden people and will right every wrong and will dare to persevere. He will come across party lines to bring about this change he keeps talking about all the while holding the title as the most Liberal candidate. He is the friend of the Mexican immigrant but wants secure borders. He is for women's rights, just not a woman president. He is for hard work and sacrifice, but wants to penalize the sucessful among us and reward the underachievers. He believes government is the solution, not the problem. He is going to do so much for so many for so long AND balance the budget.

There is an old saying, if it sounds too good to be true...........

That's your strongest argument against him, he sounds too good? Please, continue to make this argument everywhere you can.

[tomspug]

Originally Posted by nutshell

He does bring up his stances. You're just selectively listening.

Right, apparently when I watched the entire CNN Debate between him and Hillary I was only listening to Hillary. It's fine to like Obama, but it's just part of his campaign to speak about idealism and promises more than actual policy and issues.

[Reverend Rick]

I can see the bumper stickers now, DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR MCCAIN