Clean slate with Obama (virtual, America, devil, science)

[Reverend Rick]

John McCain and Hillary Clinton carry alot of baggage with them, not so with Barrack Obama. His slate is clean. People can project what they hope he is like when they consider him for president.

No one running for president is a better orator than Senator Obama. I can't see anyone deny that Obama's speeches are compelling. The major theme is change. Change can be good, but not always.

The devil is in the details. WE NEED DETAILS BARRACK! JUST WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU PLAN TO DO?

I think it is safe to say, that he will end the Iraq war. Will he just cut and run or organise a longer method of making the Iraqi government get their act together and address the issue of all the equipment and arms we have over there. What will happen to all this stuff?

All I know about Obama is he is against the war. My question is, how will he end the war?

Health care is another promise he makes. How much is this health care going to cost and will my current doctor accept this national coverage? Many doctors do not accept medicare. You do know doctors are not required to accept new patients as well right?

What good is health care of you can't get an appointment when you need to see the doctor?

Details Mr. Obama, we need details, right?

[doppelgänger]

Let's do that with everybody. What are the details of McCain's health care plan? What are his plans for dealing with the looming economic recession? Other than never, ever leaving Iraq . . . ever . . . until . . . I'm not sure when. What are his plans for bringing about a political solution that would allow the people of "Iraq" to govern themselves without an occupying army? What are his plans for paying for all of the expenses of 4 or more years of occupation in Iraq? What are his plans for bringing Afghanistan under control? What are the details of his plans to improve our ability to protect the U.S. itself against terrorist attacks and natural disasters? What are his intentions with regard to Iran? What is he going to do about the skyrocketing national debt? Or the trade deficit? Or the failure of the earnings of working families to keep pace with inflation? Or soaring gas prices? Or anything?

All McCain does is talk about how everybody should be scared, scared, scared. Best I can tell, people support McCain because they are afraid of the future. He doesn't have anything else to offer in terms of plans or details.

[Reverend Rick]

One thing Obama is doing right is not running a negative campaign. I admire him for taking the high road. If I where Barrack, I would avoid any specifics right now because the course he is taking is working in defeating Hillary.

Once he is the democratic nominee, he will have to be more specific. McCain gets credit for being honest about not having a clue about the economy. I am interested in what credentials Obama has in that regard that is superior to McCain. I honestly believe they both have no clue how to fix the economy. For all we know, the economy may just fix it's self.

I want to hear what both candidates will do to clean up this sub prime debacle. It's not just about people who made stupid mistakes or where victims of predatory lending practices. The value of every one's home is hanging in the balance here.

[doppelgänger]

I agree Rick that the details are important. If it were a matter of who has the most detailed plans, the next President would be Hillary Clinton. All three candidates have taken a stab at setting forth their policy ideas and you can read them on their respective websites. By far the most lacking in detail is McCain.

As for the subprime mortgage crisis, I agree. We need to come up with a workable solution for that. What are the three candidate's plans?

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief . . . The tax cut is not appropriate until we find out the cost of the war and the cost of reconstruction" - John McCain, 2003 (talking about the same tax cuts he now wants to make permanent)

The devil is in the details . . . indeed.

[doppelgänger]

Clinton's subprime plan, outlined in the South Carolina debate:

I would have a moratorium on home foreclosures for ninety days to try to help families work it out so that they don’t lose their homes. We’re in danger of seeing millions of Americans become basically, you know, homeless and losing the American dream. I want to have an interest-rate freeze for five years, because these adjustable rate mortgages, if they keep going up, the problem will just get compounded. And we need more transparency in the market.

Her plan is superior to Obama's, which, frankly, lacks details. But both are superior to McCain's, which has virtually no details. Edwards had the most detailed and workable plan on the mortgage crisis. But he's out of the race for now.

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by doppelgänger

Clinton's subprime plan, outlined in the South Carolina debate:



Her plan is superior to Obama's, which, frankly, lacks details. But both are superior to McCain's, which has virtually no details. Edwards had the most detailed and workable plan on the mortgage crisis. But he's out of the race for now.

I've heard Obama say he would reach across the isle to hammer out problems which is code for compromise. Frankly if he is elected, and wants to accomplish much, he will have to put an end to partisan bickering and move to the center to be an effective president.

I have a feeling that many liberals might be disappointed in Obama if he becomes president.

[Francine]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

All I know about Obama is he is against the war. My question is, how will he end the war?

“The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq’s leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops,” Mr. Obama said. “Not in six months or one year — now.”

In his address, Mr. Obama proposed removing American combat troops at a pace of one or two brigades a month, which is about twice as fast as American commanders in Iraq have deemed prudent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/us...l?ref=politics

[daniegrace]

In my opinion....removing our troops from Iraq would be like pulling the thorn out of their foot......I read only 2% of the insurgents over there are al-queida(SP) the violence over there is directly linked to the fact that WE ARE THERE......
bring our boys and girls home!