Have we really changed that much? (marriage, sex, service)

[Reverend Rick]

The 1960's were a time of war protests and sexual liberties. Hero's of the day where Dr. Martin Luther King, Jack Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy. They were champions for change back then.

As of late there are war protests and talk of same sex marriages. The modern day candidates are Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Obama looked and sounded very much like Jack Kennedy did after the Iowa caucus victory. Hillary has much support as well around the country mostly because they both stand basically for the same ideals that Dr. King and the Kennedy brothers did.

If elected, could they suffer the same fate even today?

[Francine]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

If elected, could they suffer the same fate even today?

No, the secret service is much more alert toward possible assassinations.

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by Francine

No, the secret service is much more alert toward possible assassinations.

Hmmmmm, really? So Ronald Regan had poor security? What makes security so much better now? Just because you think everything old was second class and every thing modern is so much better now? What do you base your opinion of today's security on?

[PureX]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

The 1960's were a time of war protests and sexual liberties. Hero's of the day where Dr. Martin Luther King, Jack Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy. They were champions for change back then.

As of late there are war protests and talk of same sex marriages. The modern day candidates are Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Obama looked and sounded very much like Jack Kennedy did after the Iowa caucus victory. Hillary has much support as well around the country mostly because they both stand basically for the same ideals that Dr. King and the Kennedy brothers did.

If elected, could they suffer the same fate even today?

Now that J. Edgar Hoover is no longer around, I think these folks are probably safe. I also hope they are the "new Kennedys". The 60s were a time of great optimism and freedom, and idealism. They were troubled times mostly because the status quo didn't want anything to change. They were in power and they wanted to stay that way. Maybe this time they won't be able to kill the agents of change like they did before. And maybe we really will see some positive changes.

It's a nice thought.

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by PureX

Now that J. Edgar Hoover is no longer around, I think these folks are probably safe. I also hope they are the "new Kennedys". The 60s were a time of great optimism and freedom, and idealism. They were troubled times mostly because the status quo didn't want anything to change. They were in power and they wanted to stay that way. Maybe this time they won't be able to kill the agents of change like they did before. And maybe we really will see some positive changes.

It's a nice thought.

Yes, J. Edgar Hoover is dead and gone but if my memory serves me correct, Daddy Bush was the director of the CIA back then. With Obama and Hillary the new players on the left and the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney on the right, have we really changed all that much?

What do you think about security today? Is it better? Why? If there was another inside job like the Kennedy assassination, would a questionable better security really matter?

[PureX]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

Yes, J. Edgar Hoover is dead and gone but if my memory serves me correct, Daddy Bush was the director of the CIA back then. With Obama and Hillary the new players on the left and the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney on the right, have we really changed all that much?

What do you think about security today? Is it better? Why? If there was another inside job like the Kennedy assassination, would a questionable better security really matter?

I don't believe the Kennedy assassination was an inside job. I believe that Oswald was acting on his own. None of those 60s assassinations were orchestrated by Hoover. But I suspect several of them were 'allowed to happen' by Hoover. Meaning that he could have taken measures to stop them from happening, and did not.

Bush senior wasn't much better, but he's no longer in power. And this time around, the guys who are in power don't have a lot of political support. Chaney would be the most likely loose cannon. I suspect he and his crew of zionist neo-cons are capable of anything. But I don't think he's foolish enough to try something that drastic. Besides, he and his pals have already stolen hundreds of billions of dollars and have gotten away with it. Unless he's patently insane, what more could he want to gain from playing the strings of a puppet president?

[Reverend Rick]

Originally Posted by PureX

I don't believe the Kennedy assassination was an inside job. I believe that Oswald was acting on his own. None of those 60s assassinations were orchestrated by Hoover. But I suspect several of them were 'allowed to happen' by Hoover. Meaning that he could have taken measures to stop them from happening, and did not.

Bush senior wasn't much better, but he's no longer in power. And this time around, the guys who are in power don't have a lot of political support. Chaney would be the most likely loose cannon. I suspect he and his crew of zionist neo-cons are capable of anything. But I don't think he's foolish enough to try something that drastic. Besides, he and his pals have already stolen hundreds of billions of dollars and have gotten away with it. Unless he's patently insane, what more could he want to gain from playing the strings of a puppet president?

I dunno Purex, It is not all about money. Poor man wants to be rich. Rich man wants to be king. You can only have so much money to the point where more money is pointless. People who require this mass amount of fortune in the first place are not going to be satisfied with just money, the next step is power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Many people think this is just about the United States. Cheney's ambition is world wide. I would say without a doubt, he is the most powerful man in the world.

As far as Daddy Bush is concerned, he is old and retired, but still has many friends in high places and can if he wants to influence more than you think.

[Shadow Wolf]

If elected, could they suffer the same fate even today?

I'm sure there will at least be plotting over it. The first woman or first mixed race/black president is quite a major step, and honestly I do not think the nation as a whole is ready for it. There are still so many racist and sexist, that it will make there presidency very difficult even if there is no assassination attempts.
Like or hate Clinton and Obama, you still have to give them credit for stepping up like they have.

[Kidblop]

I personally know of someone who said that if obama gets elected he's going to blow the "n*****'s" head out.. kinda scary stuff. And he seemed serious.