Anti-Mormon Papers Circulating in South Carolina (Jesus Christ, ritual, Latter-Day Saints, moral)

[jonny]

Originally Posted by nutshell

How about Bible-best Evangelicals. I think you're making a leap to suggest McCAin or Guiliani.

I just said those two names because they are the front runners. I wasn't trying to suggest that they had anything to do with it.

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by bible truth

They all appear to be rooted from historical protestant evangelical to me, with the exception of Kennedy.

LOL...

where is that throw-up smilie when I need it?

Please dude, you have to be smoking crack to believe what you just said.

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by bible truth

You posted the numbers within the apparent context of the United States and Canada. That's the problem with our dialogs between evangelicals and LDS members. There's always seem to be some hidden and concealed information behind the LDS scene. The Christian is your mission field according to your link.

please study the bible in light of why Jesus taught in parables... God hides the truth from those who aren't chosen... I guess you aren't chosen...

[SoyLeche]

Originally Posted by bible truth

I found this from Jonny's link: http://www.pbs.org/mormons/faqs/mission.html#4

Do missionaries try to convert Christians?

Yes. Mormons view all non-Mormon Christian denominations as misdirected from the true teaching of God. Their emphasis when approaching Christians is on the "Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ" as revealed to Joseph Smith. In their eyes, Christianity has suffered from a "Great Apostasy" ever since the formation of the early Christian church, necessitating the revelation of Joseph Smith and, therefore, the need to spread his message throughout the existing Christian world.

Maybe if you post this one more time in another thread somewhere someone will actually figure out what it is you are trying to say by posting it.

[gmelrod]

Originally Posted by Comprehend

LOL...

where is that throw-up smilie when I need it?

Please dude, you have to be smoking crack to believe what you just said.

Come on be nice to BT. He admitted that he was hasty in asseing the error and I got a little friendly jab. There is no point in picking on him further. None of us would want that done to us. Be nice.

[jonny]

Originally Posted by SoyLeche

Maybe if you post this one more time in another thread somewhere someone will actually figure out what it is you are trying to say by posting it.

What do they say - fourth time's a charm.

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Originally Posted by jonny

Who's up to this dirty trick? I don't care if you're for against Mitt Romney, what's happening in South Carolina is not cool. The Spartanburg Herald Journal is reporting the following:

Less than a week before the Republican presidential primary debate in Columbia, a wave of anti-Mormon literature has hit select South Carilina mailboxes. The literature does not mention former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by name, but is an indirect attack on him. Romney, considered by many to be one of the three GOP front-runners despite polling low, is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.The eight-page diatribe is titled "Mormons in Contemporary American Society: A Politically Dangerous Religion?" It calls Mormon texts "hoaxes" and labels church founder Joseph Smith a "gold digger turned prophet."

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/156094.aspx


I think that one of the political campaigns or its supporters are behind this. It was bound to happen eventually. So, who is playing the dirty games. McCain? Guiliani?

Four words: Welcome to South Carolina.

First to secede from the Union.
Last to still elect an openly prejudiced Senator.
Only state that flies a Confederate flag ON ITS CAPITOL.

So I wouldn't put it past them to pull this one.

Originally Posted by bible truth

I knew this was coming because I read an article about ths issue six months ago. All of the Presidents of the United States have been professing Protestant Evangelical Christians with the exception of Kennedy. I believe the same issue of Kennedy being Roman Catholic will be the same issue of the LDS candidate. - BT

I found this from Jonny's link: http://www.pbs.org/mormons/faqs/mission.html#4

Do missionaries try to convert Christians?

Yes. Mormons view all non-Mormon Christian denominations as misdirected from the true teaching of God. Their emphasis when approaching Christians is on the "Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ" as revealed to Joseph Smith. In their eyes, Christianity has suffered from a "Great Apostasy" ever since the formation of the early Christian church, necessitating the revelation of Joseph Smith and, therefore, the need to spread his message throughout the existing Christian world.

Yes, that *totally* relates to the OP!

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Would somebody please set the record straight here? I'm afraid I can't because my husband hasn't yet given me permission to debate with BT.

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Originally Posted by bible truth

Hey gmelrod,

Thanks for the question. I have a 17 year old who will be able to vote in the next election. I teach him that God is not a Republican. I do not belong to the moral majority organization, but I think I'm on their mailing list. My son likes politics because one of his teachers is a political Christian activist who also writes in the local paper. We live in a very liberal part of the country (Pacific Northwest).

I don't get it. What exactly do you mean by that last sentence?

Originally Posted by bible truth

Ah...redemptive history is God's story of saving wretched sinners. Some Christians believe that the Civil War was God's judgment against the evils of slavery in the United States. Lincoln converted to Christianity during the Civil War. One of the greatest American theologians, preacher, and scholar… Jonathan Edwards owned slaves. Edward’s son fought to abolish slavery. BTW… Edwards was credited for the Great Awakening revival in America. He was a staunch evangelical protestant Calvinist. Please consider reading his famous sermon “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” which can be found on the web. I don't believe this is a secular country as a majority. Therefore, a candidate's religious affiliation is still very significant, even though the candidate may not actually believe in God. This is just my fallible observation. I prefer to dabble in absolutes like the claims of Christianity as compared to politics. I need to get off of the subject of politics…- BT

Good piece of advice in there. Reading that sermon puts a lot of things in perspective with our nation's history, and fundamentalist Christianity itself.

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

You know what's ironic about this whole thing?

Southern Baptists often are the very ones on the forefront of the Religious Right movement. Yet when they get a candidate that by and large (not completely, but largely--and therein may lie the trouble) stands for what they do, they disown him for the most ridiculous reason ever.

So much for being in the 21st century.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Mercy Not Sacrifice

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Well, I wasn't going to make more of an issue of it than has already been made, but since you asked...

Bible Truth has refused to debate with me. It goes against his conscience to debate with me, since I am an LDS woman and my husband refused to give me permission to converse with an Evangelical man. When I asked him (i.e. my husband) how he would feel about becoming a member of RF and posting something to the effect that he would permit me to talk about spiritual things with BT, he looked at me like I had lost my mind. He's not really used to my asking his permission to talk. (Does that come as much of a surprise to anyone here?)