Ouch for Romney! (ritual, virgin, contradiction, choice, hell)

[Bishka]

"We're shocked by the evil of the Virginia Tech shooting," Romney said. "I opened my Bible shortly after I heard of the tragedy. Only a few verses, it seems, after the Fall, we read that Adam and Eve's oldest son killed his younger brother. From the beginning, there has been evil in the world."

He added: "Pornography and violence poison our music and movies and TV and video games. The Virginia Tech shooter, like the Columbine shooters before him, had drunk from this cesspool."

Blaming the shootings on video games, music and movies?

Link here

What are you views on the subject?

[gmelrod]

Well it is a well known fact that Cain looked at Playboys, listened to death metal, and played Grand Theft Auto. Honestly Romney's stament contained it's own refutation. If this kind of senseless violence have been happening since the dawn of man then how can you blame them on short lived things like porn (well porn has been around forever but the internet is new. and everyone knows the internet is for porn) video games and rock music.

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by beckysoup61

Blaming the shootings on video games, music and movies?

Link here

What are you views on the subject?

Actually, that was a very smart statement on Mitt's part. He condemned the shootings, blamed it on a popular scapegoat AND casually mentioned that he reads the bible in order to drive home the point to everyone that he is Christian. smooth.

As for blaming it on video games and movies, I don't think so. But that's a helluvalot more sensical than blaming it on our immigration policies, like Buchanan did.

[Sunstone]

What possible link does porn necesarily have to murder? Would Mitt have us believe anyone who reads a Playboy is a potential serial killer?

[PHOTOTAKER]

i thank it is easier to blame things on stuff that we don't like, watching CSI, Las Vegas there are some really buzzer things out there that i don't want to even imagine... and the mind is not like the body what you eat can be taken out of the body but what goes into the mind cannot come out too easily, for the shootings i thank it started out as an idea, all things start out spiritually before the become reality. what dose it take for some to thank before they do something this whore-able possible playing video game, watching movies, lessoning to music that promote violence i believe starts a person down the wrong path little by little uncheck grudges, getting more and more angry at the world, until it become a "logical" idea for that person to commit such a terriful crime against his neighbor.

to say that the meada dosn't play a role is to say the gun had nothing to do with it but the bullet... i belive it is a fact, there are lots of studies of kids watching violice on tv and then play acting and being disrupive in class... if you sow evil thoughts and intenchions you will reap evil it will be in reality and no longer in the mind, but there is always a choice no one has to kill...

[GeneCosta]

I doubt we're seeing any significant increase in violence, especially since reports tell of violent crimes decreasing from their highs in the 80s and 90s. Video games especially have become more gruesome since then -- so why the stark contradiction?

At least we don't live in the Middle Ages, where violence was sanctioned by the church and state.

[gmelrod]

Don't forget that this kid had mental problems so he could have been effected by video games and violence out of normal proportion. The guy who killled John Lennon was effected by Catcher in the Rye. The guy who shot Regan did it to impress Jodie Foster (i think) never underestimate crazy people.

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by Sunstone

What possible link does porn necesarily have to murder? Would Mitt have us believe anyone who reads a Playboy is a potential serial killer?

There's statistical evidence that those who view porn are more likely to commit violent crimes than those who do not.

However, I disagree it was porn or video games or music. He was suffering from a mental disease.

[nutshell]

Originally Posted by PHOTOTAKER

to say that the meada dosn't play a role is to say the gun had nothing to do with it but the bullet... i belive it is a fact, there are lots of studies of kids watching violice on tv and then play acting and being disrupive in class... if you sow evil thoughts and intenchions you will reap evil it will be in reality and no longer in the mind, but there is always a choice no one has to kill...

Media does impact society.

Studies show those who play violent games tend to be more violent.

However, play acting and being disruptive is just what boys do, even when they have nothing but the best input. The cliche "boys will be boys" didn't start without a reason.