Obama asks why rappers are let off free. (vain, devil)

[lillitruthseeker]

i really liked the way Snoop Dogg responded to the lyrics he said --

"[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-*** white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha----as say we in the same league as him."

I understand that the lyrics are the problem too but i have to agree with Snoop here its comparing apples to oranges

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by lillitruthseeker

i really liked the way Snoop Dogg responded to the lyrics he said --

"[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-*** white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha----as say we in the same league as him."

I understand that the lyrics are the problem too but i have to agree with Snoop here its comparing apples to oranges

Thank you!! It is comparing apples and oranges. And why is it that when a white guy gets in trouble for saying something wrong the conversation immediately goes to what other groups are doing??! Where I came from, we call that DEFLECTION.

For the umpteenth time, not that I expect it will be any different this time, what Imus said was racist and sexist, NOT because he used the words "nappy-headed ho's" but because he was judging the Rutgers team versus the Tennessee team and put down the Rutgers team for being darker.

All this talk about the word "ho" deflects from this fact!

As for some rap lyrics, people have been criticizing the misogyny and violence and homophobia in rap for years. Black women have been saying so for years, and we're just starting to listen because a man says it?

Addendum:
I will add that that is my only beef with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson weighing in on this issue - because this was an attack on women and these men felt they had the authority to speak for them.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by darkpenguin

Great yet another person who would like to tape peoples mouths shut because he doesn't like what he hears.

If people don't like rap music, turn it off! Simple!

Funny, his quote sounded more like an appeal not for censorship, but that people consider...turning it off.

I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would pay money to listen to poetry that demeans them, but people do exactly that.

[PureX]

Originally Posted by lillitruthseeker

i really liked the way Snoop Dogg responded to the lyrics he said --

"[Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-*** white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha----as say we in the same league as him."

I understand that the lyrics are the problem too but i have to agree with Snoop here its comparing apples to oranges

I agree with this point. But then on the other hand, hatred is hatred no matter whos heart it's in, or how it got there.

I understand that the negative and offensive lyrics in rap music is an honest representation of how the rappers feel, because they come from very difficult circumstances. But the same can be said for the racism and bigotry of anyone who grew up poor. And I really don't see that as a ligitimate excuse for it.

I am a firm believer in the right of people to express what's in their hearts, with words. And I am also a firm believer in calling those expressions exactly what they are. And in some cases, what they are is hatred, racism, and bigotry, and they remain hatred, racism, and bigotry regardless of the color or economic background of the people expressing it. Imus has a right to say what he feels. So does Snoop Dog. And we all have the right and the obligation to label their expressions what they are: hatred, racism, and bigotry.

[MaddLlama]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

My freedom ends where your freedom begins. Let's keep the airwaves clean. If you want to exercise extreme language rights, do it on XM or cable. People have just as much right not to hear something as you do hearing it.

Let's give everyone their rights and not just some.

And, what's stopping you from just changing the channel? That's what I do when the 700 Club comes on cable TV at night. Saying that only the things you like should be on the airwaves is essentially restricting the freedom of everyone else. You want to give everyone their rights? Well, that means everyone, including the people who make music you don't like.

Let me make this very very clear: Nowhere is it written that you, I, or anyone else has the right to never be offended. You don't have the right to take something away from everyone else just because you don't like it. The beauty of free speech is that it extends to everyone, not just some people, and the idea of free speech for everyone keeps people from turning the government into the Thought Police.

You don't want to listen to rap music, or music with bad language? Change the channel, and don't buy the CD's. That's what I do. I am not so deluded to think that my opinions of what's good and bad should be applied to what the whole country gets to listen to.

You have all the freedoms of everyone else in the US, including the freedom to change the channel.

[MaddLlama]

Originally Posted by Booko

Funny, his quote sounded more like an appeal not for censorship, but that people consider...turning it off.

I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would pay money to listen to poetry that demeans them, but people do exactly that.

That's exactly the point. But, how many people will use his comments as an excuse to support censorship? Too many, I fear.

[MaddLlama]

Originally Posted by daddyholland

Rap now day's is what Rock used to be...people dont like what they dont understand.

While I wasn't around in the 70's, I do know about the big controversy over Alice Cooper's "School's Out". I don't really see any difference.

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rick

When a Democrat can guarantee me that they will not raise my taxes or change any gun laws, I will consider voting for them.

Does that sound selfish or is it just me.