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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/arc..._09/004639.php
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http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard...05/2005464.asp http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/3/31/13544/0640 "Liberty can not be preserved without a general knowledge among the people. Let us dare to read, think, speak and write". --John Adams
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If you want to find out what real homeschoolers are like and why they do it, go chat with some folks who do this on a homeschooling forum somewhere. I know homeschoolers, and the ones I know are not religious kooks. We've decided to continue Ellen's education at home starting in 11th grade because a) it doesn't serve her needs well for what she wants to aim for in life, and b) Georgia ranks 50 out of 50 in the U.S. We live barely a mile away from the best HS in Georgia, and the school has many things going in its favor, but none of those are related to anything Ellen will be heading for in life. On the political side, I believe a strong and effective public school system is essential to our nation. Quote:
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Unfortunately, homeschooling will not work for everyone, in fact I think it work for a minority of kids. So strong public schools are always going to have to be there. Quote:
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Hello, Booko.
This is not an attack against private schools or homeschoolers. I know quite a few myself. I hope no one mistakes my intentions for something else. I am merely defending the public school system, faulty yes it is, but too many times we don't give it credit!
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You're going to drag me into the street and beat me, but my first gut reaction to this information was "Pfft... as though American students need any additional help being ignorant."
I think, when you have the wealthiest and most powerful country the world, and it is being slaughtered in standard tests by countries like Slovenia, with a nation-wide population smaller than most American state capitals, then you have a very, very severe problem. I've never attended an American school so I can't imagine what the source of this problem is, but it's something that... it's very dangerous for people to respond to this situation, for example reading my post right now, by getting defensive. It's a natural response but you really must fight it and try to change the situation. Education is simply too important, it's the entire future of your country, and it needs to be maintained to the highest standard possible. In Bosnia, right now, our problem is not scores. We're consistently in Europe's top 20, a full 30 places above the US's average ranking in some subjects. The problem for us is nationalism. Children from different regions of the country are being taught completely different history courses - up to an including some regions praising war criminals found guilty of war crimes and charged with genocide. And that has to be one of our greatest fights right now. Education is the future of the state, it's so important for people to remember that and just do something.
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Gene great finds on the links and articles.
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I do agree that the US does need to focus more attention on education. This includes treating its educators better. It does not include the devaluing of public schools that GeneCosta's OP stated. I attended a public school and I like to think that I'm a well-educated fellow.
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Last edited by CaptainXeroid; 01-20-2007 at 09:02 PM. Reason: Removed "You're such a xenophobe." |
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I teach special education (reading) at a large public high school in a poor area. The kids are largely Hispanic and speak Spanish as their main language, though most speak English at least informally. Numerous studies have shown it takes about 7 years for kids to aquire the formal English required for education, and esp. in testing.
The NCLB has been an absolute nightmare. Our school is obviously on the failing list. (Only two city schools are not, of course with a requirement of 100% passing the test, it is only a matter of time til they won't be). All kids (except perhaps two or three) take these tests. There are kids with IQs of 60 who are takign these tests. We have autistic kids takign them and also kids who are emotionally damaged. (This is required as according to the law only 1-2% of the school can be allowed not to take it.) Hispanic kids are takign it. (There is a hispanic test, but you can only take it for two or three years-- see above. Then again not all kids are literate in Spanish anyway.) The kids I teach read mostly at a 3rd grade level. We use a highly structured program (based on Orton Gillingham). If we work with them all year, if the kids are not too turned off, if their attendance is good, if they do not have severe dyslexia we can get good results (perhaps 2 grade levels up in a year). Of course it is a lot of "ifs". These kids take the tests too and I see a lot frustration as they are required to take thsi seriously and so forth. Many teachers do tons of test prep (we won't as it won't do them any good anyway). The whole schoool is required to do meaningless improvement plans that just take time from teaching. They shuffle around from experimental plan to another that doesn't work. State and federal people cruise the hallways. They make us put up so much stuff on our boards (this standard and that) that we violate fire marshall rules. They institute methods from corporations. Nothing really works but they feel they have to do something. Special ed. teachers spend long periods of time doing IEPs-- these are actually not much concerned with kids (I have written them in the past where they were all about the kids, goals, etc. but these now are so geared to this test and that that there's no room or time for other stuff.) Teacher moral is very low. We have several teachers out for mental health leave. The wierd thing about NCLB is that the end idea is to make schools private. Many schools now have tutoring programs run by private agencies (instead of the school themselves). These agencies usually have less need to document, etc. than we do. I agree that it is kind of neocon plot. With the new congress there may be some way of turning this program around. There are good things in it. But so much bad, I have heard of teachers quitting because of it. It is up for reauthorization this year, and I am planning on doing something. --des |
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