Hmmm (America)

[klubbhead024]

If I understand the people protesting the restriction at the US border, this is what I am to assume:


Lets say I break into your house. Lets say when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds, washed all the floors, did all the laundry, and washed all the dishes; I've done all the thigns you don't liek to do. I'm hard-working and honest(except for when I broke into your house)."
According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan and provide other benefits to me and my family. If you try and call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be here. It's only fair after all, becuase you have a nicer house then I do, and I am just trying to better myself.
And what a deal for me! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing that you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice, and being an anti-housebreaker.


Did I miss anything here?

[darkpenguin]

Originally Posted by klubbhead024

If I understand the people protesting the restriction at the US border, this is what I am to assume:


Lets say I break into your house. Lets say when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds, washed all the floors, did all the laundry, and washed all the dishes; I've done all the thigns you don't liek to do. I'm hard-working and honest(except for when I broke into your house)."
According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan and provide other benefits to me and my family. If you try and call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be here. It's only fair after all, becuase you have a nicer house then I do, and I am just trying to better myself.
And what a deal for me! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing that you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice, and being an anti-housebreaker.


Did I miss anything here?

Cool, America here I come, where does Bill Gates live again lol?

[Comprehend]

just wait until you see what the people on this forum are going to say to you for even posting such an awful thing. (nevermind that it is true). If you don't say thank you while this country is robbed, then you are a mean spirited racist. just wait....

EDIT: not to mention that NOBODY seems to know or care that Mexico is 10 times more restrictive with their southern border. They do inhuman things to foreigners, but we Americans are scum if we don't let them walk across and give them free school and healthcare when they get here.

[PureX]

Originally Posted by klubbhead024

If I understand the people protesting the restriction at the US border, this is what I am to assume:


Lets say I break into your house. Lets say when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds, washed all the floors, did all the laundry, and washed all the dishes; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest(except for when I broke into your house)."
According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan and provide other benefits to me and my family. If you try and call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be here. It's only fair after all, because you have a nicer house then I do, and I am just trying to better myself.
And what a deal for me! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing that you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice, and being an anti-housebreaker.


Did I miss anything here?

Yes. Now imagine that there is a raging blizzard outside the house, and that the person who broke in did so to keep from freezing to death outside in the cold. And because they broke in for the sake of survival, they made the beds and cleaned the house and did all those ugly chores that the homeowner doesn't like doing, in hopes that the homeowner will let them stay inside where it's warm.

Now, the homeowner came home long ago, and saw the intruder there, but did in fact appreciate that the intruder did all those ugly chores, and so pretended not to see the intruder. And this is how things stayed for many years. The intruder did the ugly jobs, while the homeowner pretended not to see him. Eventually the intruder got married and had a whole family living in the home, and then one day the homeowner decided to recognize that they were all there in his house.

What to do now? The intruder's children were born in the house, and have no other place to go. And the blizzard is still raging outside, so even the intruder himself may not survive if the homeowner throws him out. And after all, isn't the homeowner somewhat complicit in all this, for having ignored the intruder's presence for all those years?

There. I think that'd represent the problems at hand a little better.

[GeneCosta]

Immigration should be made easier, in my opinion, especially for our friends down south and up north, but to protect ourselves from the criminals and terrorists we shoud definately be patrolling the border with whatever numbers is required. I honestly don't have a problem with most illegals; it's the few that are causing (me) to be concerned.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by PureX

Yes. Now imagine that there is a raging blizzard outside the house, and that the person who broke in did so to keep from freezing to death outside in the cold. And because they broke in for the sake of survival, they made the beds and cleaned the house and did all those ugly chores that the homeowner doesn't like doing, in hopes that the homeowner will let them stay inside where it's warm.

Now, the homeowner came home long ago, and saw the intruder there, but did in fact appreciate that the intruder did all those ugly chores, and so pretended not to see the intruder. And this is how things stayed for many years. The intruder did the ugly jobs, while the homeowner pretended not to see him. Eventually the intruder got married and had a whole family living in the home, and then one day the homeowner decided to recognize that they were all there in his house.

What to do now? The intruder's children were born in the house, and have no other place to go. And the blizzard is still raging outside, so even the intruder himself may not survive if the homeowner throws him out. And after all, isn't the homeowner somewhat complicit in all this, for having ignored the intruder's presence for all those years?

There. I think that'd represent the problems at hand a little better.

Yes, that's a much better representation Purex...I was thinking along the same lines.

[klubbhead024]

Originally Posted by PureX

Yes. Now imagine that there is a raging blizzard outside the house, and that the person who broke in did so to keep from freezing to death outside in the cold. And because they broke in for the sake of survival, they made the beds and cleaned the house and did all those ugly chores that the homeowner doesn't like doing, in hopes that the homeowner will let them stay inside where it's warm.

Now, the homeowner came home long ago, and saw the intruder there, but did in fact appreciate that the intruder did all those ugly chores, and so pretended not to see the intruder. And this is how things stayed for many years. The intruder did the ugly jobs, while the homeowner pretended not to see him. Eventually the intruder got married and had a whole family living in the home, and then one day the homeowner decided to recognize that they were all there in his house.

What to do now? The intruder's children were born in the house, and have no other place to go. And the blizzard is still raging outside, so even the intruder himself may not survive if the homeowner throws him out. And after all, isn't the homeowner somewhat complicit in all this, for having ignored the intruder's presence for all those years?

There. I think that'd represent the problems at hand a little better.

If that is the case, then how will the original owner of the house' children earn their allowance? Perhaps the original owner of the house has enough of their own problems to deal with to now deal with another new family living in the house.


They are called ILLEGALS for a reason. If we tolerate 1 illegal act, then maybe we should look the other way for kidnappers and pretend they don't exist. How about burglers?? You can always get abck your stuff, but you can't get back a job that was never made available to you! Maybe we should look the other way on illegal dumping

[klubbhead024]

Originally Posted by GeneCosta

Immigration should be made easier, in my opinion, especially for our friends down south and up north, but to protect ourselves from the criminals and terrorists we shoud definately be patrolling the border with whatever numbers is required. I honestly don't have a problem with most illegals; it's the few that are causing (me) to be concerned.

Made easier? With as many American born citizens living below the poverty line, without insurance, and many without heat, we should just keep herding more people we can't take care of into our country? Until EVERY willing American born citizen has a job or a home, we should close the borders completely!

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by PureX

Yes. Now imagine that there is a raging blizzard outside the house, and that the person who broke in did so to keep from freezing to death outside in the cold. And because they broke in for the sake of survival, they made the beds and cleaned the house and did all those ugly chores that the homeowner doesn't like doing, in hopes that the homeowner will let them stay inside where it's warm.

Now, the homeowner came home long ago, and saw the intruder there, but did in fact appreciate that the intruder did all those ugly chores, and so pretended not to see the intruder. And this is how things stayed for many years. The intruder did the ugly jobs, while the homeowner pretended not to see him. Eventually the intruder got married and had a whole family living in the home, and then one day the homeowner decided to recognize that they were all there in his house.

What to do now? The intruder's children were born in the house, and have no other place to go. And the blizzard is still raging outside, so even the intruder himself may not survive if the homeowner throws him out. And after all, isn't the homeowner somewhat complicit in all this, for having ignored the intruder's presence for all those years?

There. I think that'd represent the problems at hand a little better.

yep. that would be accurate except for the fact that millions and millions of people are living south of the border just fine.... yep.... oh yeah, and if so many of them come into our house that it costs too much to support and we lose our house then EVERYONE gets thrown out into the "raging blizzard". eh?

[PureX]

Originally Posted by klubbhead024

If that is the case, then how will the original owner of the house' children earn their allowance? Perhaps the original owner of the house has enough of their own problems to deal with to now deal with another new family living in the house.


They are called ILLEGALS for a reason. If we tolerate 1 illegal act, then maybe we should look the other way for kidnappers and pretend they don't exist. How about burglers?? You can always get abck your stuff, but you can't get back a job that was never made available to you! Maybe we should look the other way on illegal dumping

They are also called HUMAN BEINGS for a reason. We have already tolerated the illegal act, and even benifited from it for years. And as a result many of these folks have had children in this country who are now legal citizens. Are you proposing that we send their parents back across the border and leave them here as orphans? How does this help anyone? And don't you think we bear some responsibility for their being here when we've effectively allowed them to stay all these years?