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Old 10-28-2010, 11:25 PM
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Judson Phillips, the Tea Party Nation leader who recently called for the defeat of Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., because he is Muslim, has put up a new blog post clarifying his views:
Should we vote out Keith Ellison just because he is a Muslim? No.
So that's that, then? Nope. Phillips goes on to suggest that maybe having a Muslim in Congress isn't such a good idea after all:
But his beliefs define his character and his character is a central issue. Do we want someone who supports and defends the Constitution or someone who supports the imposition of a theocracy?
Should Muslims be denied the right to run for office because of their religion? No. The Constitution specifies that no religious test can be used to exclude someone from public office. But when someone adheres to an ideology that says kill people who disagree with you, that is something voters should seriously consider when they vote.
Liberals go nuts when they hear this stuff. They think we should simply forget and just be "tolerant."
I learned everything I needed to know about tolerance on September 11th.
And he also talks to Chris Moody at the Daily Caller:
"A majority of Tea Party members, I suspect, are not fans of Islam," Phillips said. "I, personally have a real problem with Islam. With Islam, you have a religion that says kill the Jews, kill the infidels. It bothers me when a religion says kill the infidels. It bothers me a lot more when I am the infidel."
So, to summarize: Phillips does not believe Ellison should be voted out because he is Muslim. But Phillips has a "real problem" with Islam, and he also thinks voters should "seriously consider" whether to vote for an adherent of Islam.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/w...lilps_on_islam

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And it doesn't bother him actually that its Infidels who are killing Muslims all over the world Today, how can even these people think they can move forward substantially with such a bogus claim?

Looks like they are highly insecure of the credible thoroughness their fellow Muslim could have contributed but their prejudice got the best of them.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:52 AM
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You do have to remember that the average person doesn't know a heck of a lot about Islam, Abibi. Likewise, it is not helpful that people are too lazy to learn, for themselves, what Islam teaches and so they simply parrot the words of others... sort of like in Islam itself, come to think of it.

I certainly know enough about Islam to understand precisely why I reject Islam. That said, I would never think of saying what was said in the piece you have presented.
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And it doesn't bother him actually that its Infidels who are killing Muslims all over the world Today
All over the world?

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Looks like they are highly insecure of the credible thoroughness their fellow Muslim could have contributed but their prejudice got the best of them.
Can you translate this seemingly intelligent sentence into English? I've read it several times and can't make sense out of it.
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:11 AM
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Honestly, what an idiot. "Should we vote out Keith Ellison because he's a Muslim? No! We should vote him out because he's a Muslim!"

Someday they'll look back at the teabaggers as we look back at the Know-Nothings. And really, they're the same thing.
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I like Muslims. I have even started reading the Koran. I believe freedom of religion means all religions. I support the TEA party because I believe in smaller government and lower taxes, not Ignorance and bigotry.
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But when someone adheres to an ideology that says kill people who disagree with you...
Forgive an ignorant Brit who has never heard of these people but is there anything to suggest that Keith Ellison believes anything like the statement above because I don't think it can be generally attributed to Muslims any more than it can to Christians. In fact, barring any specifics, I suspect it's bordering on the libellous.
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I have a real problem with Islam too.
Most Muslims seem OK though.
Please join the Libertarian Party & run for office.....you'll get my vote.

Hey, Smoke....if it's OK to call Tea Partiers "teabaggers",
then is it OK to refer to gay organizations as "b@!!* slammers"?
I'm not a big fan of derisive sexually oriented names, but just examining fairness & social convention.
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I have a real problem with Islam too.
Most Muslims seem OK though.
Please join the Libertarian Party & run for office.....you'll get my vote.

Hey, Smoke....if it's OK to call Tea Partiers "teabaggers",
then is it OK to refer to gay organizations as "b@!!* slammers"?
I'm not a big fan of derisive sexually oriented names, but just examining fairness & social convention.
How many times do we need to tell you?!? THE TEABAGGERS GAVE THEMSELVES THAT NAME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVEMENT. Furthermore, it's lost it's inherent negative connotation, except when they want to feel persecuted.
The evolution of the word 'tea bagger' - The Week

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Hey, Smoke....if it's OK to call Tea Partiers "teabaggers",
then is it OK to refer to gay organizations as "b@!!* slammers"?
They gave themselves that name first. And if you want to call gay people names, it's not going to bother me. I got used to that years ago.
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