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Old 01-13-2006, 10:42 PM
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Default Maitreya... the Qa'im! And we all should celebrate! no?

This is course Maitreya The Eternal Divine Path!

The twelfth imam.

Why would I say that Maitreya is the twelfth imam?
The answer is quite simple, because he has the knowledge.

I have had many Bahais actually get a bit upset, that is , they didnt like the idea, of Qa'im, because Qa'im is Bab. Bab first said he was the Qa'im, then he said he was a manifestation of God, then he said he was a major manifestation. All this of course makes Baha'u'llah a minor prophet. This is correct, there is nothing wrong with this... Baha'u'llah is a minor manifestation of God. Bab brought the Message and Baha'u'llah made the Message more mainfest and universal, just as Buddha did with the teachings of Krishna. So I would suggest that you yourself surf the net and find all those other Qa'ims and find out what Bab taught ect.

Maitreya comes as The Qa'im. Now that you have searched the net you are going to say: "oh, I heard that one before", and the Bahais will plead: nonsense! No matter! It is clear, very clear when a new teaching comes, so listen up; can you tell a new teaching and new religious teaching. It is like, "there is nothing new under the sun", when the Bahais dont believe Maitreya; the bahais say there is nothing new...oh yah? ... could be true..

Bahais! What have you! Reincarnation and karma did not come out of the imaginations of the followers of the far east religions. The followers of those teachings did get that part right, because all the prophets know of reincarnation and karma. This is correct.
Find out for yourself! All the prophets. God cannot reincarnate? Reincarnation is justice of God; God is being fair. Only a fool does not believe in reincarnation, because it is like, 1+1. 1+1 is a symbol for something simple...it is simple God gives you many chances, as Buddha said, "countless lifetimes we return and learn nothing".

So you are going to the Abah Kingdom or Heaven!
This place is called enlightenment and very few people have yet reached there, however that is the Goal of everyone and it is our birthright and God is guiding us all to that place,(one with God). The earth is actually hell and where God is is heaven. What have you done already; you have met someone who is enlightened. Enlightened means the same as Baha Kingdom or Heaven. This is also correct and is fool proof, surf the net. The afterlife is clear and simple. Maitreya with his teachings has made heaven quite the open door , and there is not a mystery here is there?

So what is all this jumble of words; this is the new teaching? Bahais and others let me take you to the madalion. This is a visual thing so go to maitreya the eternal divine path and view the madalion.
The yantra or madalion is actually the main teaching the book THOTH was inspired by the yantra. I am not sorry to inform some of you that yantras have meaning in religions. "All will be lost" is defiantly at loss here, because it only appears to Bahais that all the former, mostly far east religions, appear to staring at nothing, being visual meditation. Also you may note here that this is already quite different from Bahai teachings.

If you type a search Maitreya the eternal divine path you can view the yantra without going to the main website. Please read the explaination given by Maitreya under the yantra.

Please be informed of the yantra. If you donnot look at the yantra and try to reply to my thread...how the heck is that fair!
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by drew22
This is course Maitreya The Eternal Divine Path!

The twelfth imam.

Why would I say that Maitreya is the twelfth imam?
The answer is quite simple, because he has the knowledge.

I have had many Bahais actually get a bit upset, that is , they didnt like the idea, of Qa'im, because Qa'im is Bab. Bab first said he was the Qa'im, then he said he was a manifestation of God, then he said he was a major manifestation. All this of course makes Baha'u'llah a minor prophet. This is correct, there is nothing wrong with this... Baha'u'llah is a minor manifestation of God. Bab brought the Message and Baha'u'llah made the Message more mainfest and universal, just as Buddha did with the teachings of Krishna. So I would suggest that you yourself surf the net and find all those other Qa'ims and find out what Bab taught ect.
How much do you know of the 12th Imam? What was His name, when was He born, who was the 11th Imam. Did you know there were two occultations, the minor and the lesser. Do you know how many Babs of the 12th Imam there were? Do you know any of the names. Do you know what was the last revealed message from the Occulted 12th Imam that ended the lesser occultation and started the greater occultation?

Have you ever read what the Bab said of He Whom God Will Make Manifest, He said that the message of HWGWMM was greater by far than He, Himself (the Bab)?

al-Bab or "the" Bab, (but not "Bab" by itself) did not claim ever to be the Gate of the 12th Imam. He was the Gate of "He Whom God Will Make Manifest", Qa'im to the Quayyum. Do you know what the Quayyum is?

The Bab calimed to be (in order): the Bab, Dikh'ru'llah, and the Nuqta. You know what "Bab' means you claim, do you know what "Dikh'ru'llah" and "Nuqta" mean? Of course you don't

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Maitreya comes as The Qa'im.
So you claim - or so he claims. I do not accept it, however.

You know I would not make a point of explaining your errors so patiently if you would stop representing yourself as an expert on the Baha`i faith when you know next to nothing about the faith, its writings or its beliefs. Pick on muslims or Christians for a while, and I won't bother you a bit.



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Now that you have searched the net you are going to say: "oh, I heard that one before", and the Bahais will plead: nonsense! No matter! It is clear, very clear when a new teaching comes, so listen up; can you tell a new teaching and new religious teaching. It is like, "there is nothing new under the sun", when the Bahais dont believe Maitreya; the bahais say there is nothing new...oh yah? ... could be true..
How do the Bab, Baha`u'llah and Abdu'l Baha explain how to know true revelation when you hear it? They say go to the writings and utterances of the Prophet and the words will either prove or disprove the truth of His claims. Even Christ stated that method.

I have read the Maitreya's THOTH - the first fifty pages anyway, and found it mundane in the extreme, clumsy, inelegant and spiritually dead. I cannot put it any other way. I can read the writings of Muhammed, Krsna, Buddha, the Bab, Baha`u'llah, Christ, Moses and find them to be from God, elegant and spiritually alive. I cannot put it in any other way. Baha`u'llah says there will be another Manifestation of God, but it won't be until at least a thousand years of time have passed, and He is quite clear about those being calendar years of 365 days - and - a -quarter each. So the Maitreya is making a claim to be from God in a period when Baha`u'llah says there will not be such a Manifestation until the thousand years is passed. Therefore, in my estimation this Maitreya is an imposter, and ego-driven, not God-driven.

Bahais! What have you! Reincarnation and karma did not come out of the imaginations of the followers of the far east religions. The followers of those teachings did get that part right, because all the prophets know of reincarnation and karma. This is correct.
Find out for yourself! All the prophets. God cannot reincarnate? Reincarnation is justice of God; God is being fair. Only a fool does not believe in reincarnation, because it is like, 1+1. 1+1 is a symbol for something simple...it is simple God gives you many chances, as Buddha said, "countless lifetimes we return and learn nothing". [/quote]
Shall I paste Abdu'l Baha's words about reincarnation? We get lifetimes, indeed = in time, but only this one physical lifetime on earth. This is whre we CHOOSE, and can earn upon our own merits the grace of God.

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So you are going to the Abah Kingdom or Heaven!
This place is called enlightenment and very few people have yet reached there, however that is the Goal of everyone and it is our birthright and God is guiding us all to that place,(one with God).
One does not GO to heaven. Heaven is not a place. It is a state of being close to God. We have this life to get as close as we can to God by our own actions. We get all of eternity to get closer. There is no hell. That also is a state of being far from God.
One can choose to follow the Divine Messenger, or follow one's own idle fancies, and vain imaginings.

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