compare Babi and Bahai (ritual, followers, eternal, eternity, spiritual)

[drew22]

If you remember Bahaullah`s half brother Mirza Yahya Azal i can tell you a different story of Bahai history. It is not that the Bahais changed the historical events it is that they just omitted something. I myself am well aware of the history of the events of the leadership of the Babis as recorded in Bahai history but is a ~Bahai~ history only, as it pertains to a bias in a certain event, as the rest of the history i will agree.

Mirza Yahya Azal, also by his spiritual name, Subh`T` azal (dawn of eternity) was actually designated by Bab Himself as the successor of the Babi religion. The actual succession is recorded and there is nothing else that can be found that says otherwise. Bahai history documents that Azal tried to take the title of leadership of the Babis. What really happened was the Mirza Yahya Azal was not strong enough to assume leadership and spread the Babi religion. Bahaullah was more aggressive and carismatic and He eventually reached pure conscieness and was chosen, then, by God to fulfill the task. This story also stands true because Bahaullah at first accepted Azal leadership.

The Babis, also know as Azalis are still in exsistance although their numbers are apparently very small. Also the sources of the above history can be found on the internet, saying the same thing. It is a common history without any real ~downputting~
it is just history. The rest of the Babi/Bahai history is told the same.

I first heard of this version of history (or what was left out) at a satsang given by Maitreya The Eternal Divine Path, then i researched the internet and found that Maitreya`s version of history (since there is nothing that says otherwise) is true.
Maitreya simply gave this version, the Babi/Bahai religion is part of the Greatest Sign.

[arthra]

I would like to add to the previous post by saying that actually Baha'is fully acknowledge that Mirza Yahya was the "nominee" of the Bab and recognized head of the Babi community, this was shortly after the execution of the Bab in Tabriz on July 9th 1850, which today is observed as a Baha'i Holy Day.

Baha'is do not omit this or cover it up...

Mirza Yahya was the younger half brother of Baha'u'llah and was part of the Household for many years and followed along with the exile of Baha'u'llah from Iran to Bagdad around January , 1853.

All the believers at the time were known as Babis.

Mirza Yahya was in disguise much of the time and ordered that no one was to publically recognize him out of fear of being arrested. This was in stark contrast to Baha'u'llah Who dealed openly with authorities and was in and out of prison or exiled much of the rest of His life.

Between April 22 and May 3 1863 Baha'u'llah declared that He was the "One Whom God would make manifest" prophesied by the Bab. Mirza Yahya opposed his Brother and denied His claim.

Those who followed Mirza Yahya then became known as Azalis from Subh-i-Azal "dawn of eternity" and the majority of the Babis later became known as Baha'is or followers of "Baha" which means light or glory from the title Baha'u'llah or Glory of God bestowed by the Bab.

Also see the following:

http://bahai-library.com/excerpts/fieser-powers.html

- Art

[Popeyesays]

Originally Posted by arthra

I would like to add to the previous post by saying that actually Baha'is fully acknowledge that Mirza Yahya was the "nominee" of the Bab and recognized head of the Babi community, this was shortly after the execution of the Bab in Tabriz on July 9th 1850, which today is observed as a Baha'i Holy Day.

Baha'is do not omit this or cover it up...

Mirza Yahya was the younger half brother of Baha'u'llah and was part of the Household for many years and followed along with the exile of Baha'u'llah from Iran to Bagdad around January , 1853.

All the believers at the time were known as Babis.

Mirza Yahya was in disguise much of the time and ordered that no one was to publically recognize him out of fear of being arrested. This was in stark contrast to Baha'u'llah Who dealed openly with authorities and was in and out of prison or exiled much of the rest of His life.

Between April 22 and May 3 1863 Baha'u'llah declared that He was the "One Whom God would make manifest" prophesied by the Bab. Mirza Yahya opposed his Brother and denied His claim.

Those who followed Mirza Yahya then became known as Azalis from Subh-i-Azal "dawn of eternity" and the majority of the Babis later became known as Baha'is or followers of "Baha" which means light or glory from the title Baha'u'llah or Glory of God bestowed by the Bab.

Also see the following:

http://bahai-library.com/excerpts/fieser-powers.html

- Art

Muslims and Baha`i's would call them "Azalis", but they call themselves "Bayani".

Regards,
Scott