eternal divine path (Earth, church, Revelation, prophecy, prophet)

[drew22]

The Greatest Sign is the Eternal Divine Path. To view the Greatest Sign go to www.maitreya.org

The Greatest Sign unifies all religions, it shows how each religion was given to us not argue about but is an Eternal Divine Path

[Majikthise]

Welcome!!! Tell us a little about yourself.

[andyjamal]

Hi drew22. Welcome to RF.

I checked out the website; it is very, very interesting. There seems to be some descrepencies in the teachings of Maitreya with the teachings of Baha'u'llah, who Maitreya apparently recognizes as a Manifestation of God, as the members of the Baha'i Faith are said to be the Elect in the explanation of the Greatest Sign. For instance, "Him Whom God Shall Make Manifest", spoken of by the Bab, is believed by the Baha'is to be Baha'u'llah. Baha'i scripture also indicates that all the other titles used to name the "Promised One" in the scriptures of old which are mentioned on the website apply to the Bab and Baha'u'llah. Indeed, all of the scriptures mention the appearance of these two Holy Beings. How is this accounted for in the teachings of Maitreya? I am also concerned by the fact that Baha'u'llah clearly states that another Manifestation of God will not appear on earth before the lapse of one thousand years; it has only been 160 years since the Declaration of the Bab, which begins the Baha'i calendar. In fact, many of the prophecies of Baha'u'llah have yet to be fulfilled, prophecies which are to be fulfilled through His influence. Yet, Maitreya claims that these events (namely, unification) will transpire according to his design. How will this unification be brought about?--forgive me for not reading in depth; I thought it might be easier just to ask you-- Please clarify these matters. I'm very interested to learn.

It's funny how the tables are turned; usually, I'm on the other end of this line of questioning.

[drew22]

maitreya says one thing and Bahais say another. did not Bahaullah say that in the time of Mustagath the prophet can say whatever He wants and that you must empty yourself of all learning. The website is the teachings of Maitreya not the teachings of Bahaullah. Bab/Bahaullah main teaching is that we are all one,right. God gave this message and it is the 5th seal of the 7 seals as revealed to manifest in all holy writ. The 5th seal is the 5th step in the Etenal Divine Path which leads to oneness with God. the Eternal Divine Path is revealed by Maitreya in the Greatest Sign. Well. i was sure that when i was a Bahai that Bahai represented the 5th church in Revelation where there are the martyers in white.. All religions speak of Maitreya... all proof is given on the websit(you can link right on the front page) Yes 1000 years,i am surprised you bought is up second. no one knows,but it starts when the 3rd letter is revealed. It is a word: Baha. Right. And of course the only way out for most Bahais is to say the Bahaullah was the last two letters and the Bab was the first or that the 3rd letter will maifest in 1000 yrs. If you try to find this out you will see that it is not true, Bahais are merely just saying that.You can find the quotes of who the 3rd letter is(it is in the Bahai writtings)Bahaullah, nowhere says the 3rd letter will manifest only after 1000 yrs, He only alludes to there is more to His revelation. However, natually you will not find my views on Bahai websites and all bais is against me. The 1000 yrs begins with Maiteya. Thank God for your intrest but if you go to the website and be more specific(bahai prophecies) you will find more.

[andyjamal]

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Originally Posted by drew22

no one knows,but it starts when the 3rd letter is revealed.

Where in the Baha'i writings does it mention three letters?

Bahaullah, nowhere says ... will manifest only after 1000 yrs, He only alludes to there is more to His revelation.

"Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying impostor. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such a claim. Should he repent, God will, no doubt, forgive him. If ,however,he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing! Whosoever interpreteth this verse otherwise than its obvious meaning is deprived of the Spirit of Godand His mercy which encompasseth all created things. Fear God, and follow not your idle fancies. Nay, rather, follow the bidding of your Lord, the Almighty, the All-Wise. Erelong shall clamorous voices be raised in most lands. Shun them, O My people, and follow not the iniquitous and evil-hearted. This is that of which We gave you forewarning when We were dwelling in Iraq, then later while in the Land of Mystery, and now from this Resplendent Spot." (Baha'u'llah, Kitab-i-Aqdas, 37)

[drew22]

you should look in the Bahai writtings, or search the internet also. the 3rd letter is common knowledge,, try a starter Hidden Words
sorry i will be back with a quote soon!

[drew22]

thank God for your intrest barnardpi! Oh yes there are the three letters! but before that explaination i need to establish the truth : this topic is mentioned all through the Bahai writtings. The 1000 yr prophecy has nothing to do with the completion of this three part revelation. Everything is perfectly clear to me... do you think i could brush off what is said about the thousand years? No! I am going to explain the following quote of Bahaullah but i am explaining only grammer, that is, what is simply written. Do you speak english well? Because i ask is you need only understand english language; the quote is very straight forward.
Bahaullah from The Kitab-i-Iqan
Thus it is related in the "Biharu`l-Anvar." the "Avalim" and the "Yanbu" of Sadiq. son of Muhammad (not the Prophet Mohammand), that he spoke these words."Knowledge is twenty and seven letters. All that the prophets have revealed are two letters thereof. No man thus far hath known more than these two letters. But when the Qa`im shall arise. He will cause the remaining twenty and five letters to be made manifest." Consider, He hath declared Knowledge to consist of twenty and seven letters, and regarded all the Prophets, from Adam even unto the "Seal" as Expounders of only two letters thereof and of having been sent down with these two letters. He also saith that the Qa`im will reveal all the remaining twenty and five letters. Behold from this utterance how holy and lofty is His station."
Bahaullah here refers to the Third Letter as the Qa`im (this can be assumed), however; reread the last sentence. Bahaullah is referring to the Qa`im not to Himself. With "all the tea cups full" Bahai do and will refer this statement as meaning Bahaullah is "indeed..." talking about Himself.
Maybe barnardpi you catch this line of truth and had before, but it does indeed talk about the Qa`im and not Bahaullah. If is does not then the quote must be reworked by an english teacher.

[andyjamal]

It is well known that Baha'u'llah was referring to the Bab; the entire Kitab-i-Iqan was written with the express intent of proving to the uncle of the Bab that He is the Qa'im. This passage clearly says that the Qa'im (the Bab) will manifest twenty-five of the twenty-seven letters which comprise all knowledge. There is no mention or implication of a third letter (or any letter) representing an individual Manifestation of God.

[drew22]

Yes Barnardpi ! He might well have been referring to Bab. Remember i said Bahaullah was not referring to Himself in the quote, as the last sentence of the quote appears to be saying.

However i have not yet given a quote that talks about the alif of the third letter. This quote i was showing that Bahaullah/Bab do talk about the Qa`im. " He also saith that the Qa`im will reveal all the remaining twenty and five letters" Here is a question for you Barnardpi : When Bahaullah wrote that quote had Bab actually revealed the twenty and five letters right at that time?

If what Barnardpi says is true then the whole revelation was complete with the appearance of Bab. This is also interesting because i would agree then. To further it you can read my thread , "compare Babi with Bahai".

If you wish a follow up that is fine. The use of the word, letter, that was in the above quote is not the same meaning as "letter" that began this thread. The Alif of the Greatest Name, (also known as the third letter of the word Baha ) is something different, and i am still surprised that Barnardpi has not found anything about the Three Letters.