Faith in the Universe

[willy1590]

When we die we fall in this earth and rise in another galaxy(but returning to earth is a choice of course). There may be a deistic god but we have no proof so whats the point of praying. Meditation is useful as we can gain wisdom which can be useful in this life. No one can prove karma but it may be there. The universe is brimming with life and we cannot know where we will be reborn after death. Love is key and kindness is needed in this world as all humans are worthy of respect. There are no prophets or enlgihtened one's although jesus or buddha etc are unproveable so we have to respect them as philosophers.
Any other questions are welcomed
p.s.i do not think i am special or divine

[The Sum of Awe]

I can't debate here, keep in mind, so I will just ask these as questions:

Originally Posted by willy1590

When we die we fall in this earth and rise in another galaxy(but returning to earth is a choice of course).

Is this spiritual energy or what is it exactly that is choosing? How do you define it to be 'you'?

There may be a deistic god but we have no proof so whats the point of praying.

Even if there was, it wouldn't make sense to pray to a deistic God, would it? It seems to me that it would be like some cell on a planet 3 galaxies over praying to the sun in our solar system.

Meditation is useful as we can gain wisdom which can be useful in this life.

Does one have to meditate according to "Faith in the Universe"?

No one can prove karma but it may be there.

No questions here.

The universe is brimming with life and we cannot know where we will be reborn after death.

May I ask what is being reborn? Is it some sort of soul? And I thought you said we have a choice in the matter, do we or don't we?

Love is key and kindness is needed in this world as all humans are worthy of respect.

What about respecting those who disrespect you?

There are no prophets or enlgihtened one's although jesus or buddha etc are unproveable so we have to respect them as philosophers.

What exactly do you mean? Siddartha Guatama was definitely real, and most would agree he's a Buddha. I agree he was a philosopher though, he never claimed to be anything beyond realistic.

[willy1590]

You could pray to a deistic god but we dont know if he can hear us,also meditation is open to any useful types!

[shivadas]

I understand that there is one material universe so there is one body, there is one awareness or soul picked up by all beings just like a radio.

And there is one energy that is both awareness & matter.

In Taoism this is understood as Yin, Yang, and the Tao.

In Ajah Dharma this is understood as Mother-Earth, Great-Spirit, and the One God(Ajah)

In Hinduism it is Shiva, Shakti, then Brahman

And finally in modern day Wicca it is understood as Lord, Lady, and the source.


Praying is good, God hears your prayers, because God is everything and expiriences self in all vessels.. God is the totality, and whole of all, God is everything...
This is why we make a deity sculpture, the stone is God, we carve ears for god to hear, and eyes to see, etc..

The God we talk to is our higher self(as well as the higher self of all beings), so in my understanding of this, it is safe to say that 'deep prayer' and meditation are one and the same...

just my thoughts...