Tarot Cards (ritual, church, pray, spiritual, catholic) - Page 3

cardero · #21 01-13-2005, 04:26 AM

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FeathersInHair writes: Do you think this is some sort of block? It's not as if I haven't been trying to learn these things, but I'm confused as to why I'm not picking up on something I'm so attracted to.

Someone told me when dealing with the Tarot, in the beginning grab a one word meaning of each card and once you can understand it you can eventually learn what the rest of the card means. With Tarot cards, experience is the key; the more you utilize them the more significance you can apply to them.

hoomer · #22 01-24-2005, 02:23 PM

Gypsys didnt come to europe unti AFTER tarot crds began to appear.....
The Vita Merini is proaby the first literary Appearance of Tarotchi imagery (12th century writing of Geoffrey of Monmouth..."the ife of merlin").......but like many thigns the origin is lost.....(perhaps fr the better...fr those that know..wink wink)

Personally I rely on intuition..the apearance of the cards and qabbaah (some say astrology qabbalah and tarot are 3 parts of 1 thing)when "reading them....and then only then the "BOOK meanings"

Of course what most dont know...or ever seem to approach ..is that divnation is the WEAKEST use of tarot cards......

SUMMA SCIENTIA NIHIL SCIRE

Feathers in Hair · #23 01-24-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lilithu

Which deck are you using? Different decks use different forms of symbolism and some are easier for a newbie than others. Also, regardless of experience level, some just "jive" better with different people.

That might actually be my problem, now that I think of it. I've got the Goddess Tarot, the Unicorn, the Lord of the Rings, and at least one other deck that seems to be evading my memory. (I want the Celtic dragon one, too, but I'll save buying that for later, hehee.) To me, they all hold so much beauty that resonates when I look at the cards, so maybe my problem is that I should just stick with one for awhile.

Circle_One · #24 01-24-2005, 02:52 PM

I've become quite attached to my Egyptian tarot deck. I received it years ago as a present and I love it.

Master Vigil · #25 01-24-2005, 03:46 PM

"Gypsys didnt come to europe unti AFTER tarot crds began to appear.....
The Vita Merini is proaby the first literary Appearance of Tarotchi imagery (12th century writing of Geoffrey of Monmouth..."the ife of merlin").......but like many thigns the origin is lost.....(perhaps fr the better...fr those that know..wink wink)"

From what I've read, the Sinti Gypsies were in northern Europe far before the 12th century (since they are native to it). It is true though that the Romani Gypsies were not in Europe til around the 12th century, and not into Italy until the 14th century. Which ones first came up with it, I don't know. Like you said, the origin is still lost.

kreeden · #26 01-24-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FeathersinHair

That might actually be my problem, now that I think of it. I've got the Goddess Tarot, the Unicorn, the Lord of the Rings, and at least one other deck that seems to be evading my memory. (I want the Celtic dragon one, too, but I'll save buying that for later, hehee.) To me, they all hold so much beauty that resonates when I look at the cards, so maybe my problem is that I should just stick with one for awhile.

There are others here that are far more into the Tarot then I , I'm sure . And it has been years since I have actually read a deck . But I believe that the decks you list Feathers , are all advanced decks . Perhaps if you tried a more " traditional " deck at first ? Personally I have always liked the Ryder/Waite deck . But I do think that whichever deck you start with , it would likely be a good idea to focus on one untill you are comfortible with it .

Although I don't read any longer , I do love the symbolism .

Just ask Michel .

hoomer · #27 01-25-2005, 11:29 AM

I bow to your superior knowledge as regards Gypsies....

Master Vigil · #28 01-25-2005, 12:21 PM

Divination tools have been found in all Pre Christian and non christian times. In China, the I Ching has been around before Lao Tzu and Confucius. But the thing with europe is, after Christianity started to run rampant, all ways of Divination was destroyed ecxept for those that hid them. And none did this better than the Gypsies. Actually, none hid anything better than the gypsies, since they weren't bound by society. Even the pagans back then were still a part of society and thus bound by it, but the gyspies had their own society. And if they didn't like where they were, they just got up and left. I think (to the best of my recollection) the first tarot cards were just like our modern playing cards. And these were used by "wandering folk" in Eastern Europe. Or atleast that is the earliest it was seen by the rest of society. I think this first came out in society in Italy, but I may be wrong. But I do believe they called them "wandering folk," thus referring to the Gypsies.

Draka · #29 02-22-2005, 03:53 PM

Watcher! I have the same deck. The Celtic Dragon Tarot. I have had it for quite some time and have gotten very proficient with them.

I do readings quite frequently and have had others say it does freak them out because I have been so accurate. I have people now who come back to me and only me to have their readings done. I also have others that say they would not have it done again because it was too accurate and scared them.

Memorizing the exact divinatory meanings of the cards is really not as important as knowing how to decifer them in the particular positions in certain layouts.

michel · #30 02-22-2005, 05:03 PM

[PART QUOTE=Ravensong]First of all ........... she said I would have to not tell the clients everything I saw only the good things . I refused to do half readings ... [/quote]
I don't blame you; I, like Carderro, use the Celtic Cross, the ryder/waite pack (I prefer the traditional) - I even have a pack where the designer has added four extra Major Arcana cards that I thought superfluous.
The bit about not telling people bad things is a hard one, but when you consider, with all the methods (Palmistry, Astrology, numerology, Tarot, pendulum)- what you are 'divining' is the state of the person at the time, with the present character traits. Therefore a reading could well include (And this is a true case of my Mother's reading of some girl friend when she was young)- a warning she gave to her friend that some 'undertaking' she was about to embrace would lead her to dire danger within 6 months-most likely death (This by palmistry).
The friend had been intending to change her job to airline stewardess(This being just after end World war 2); when my mother saw her again a year later the girl said "do you remember the reading you did for me - told My mum about the change of job to airline, but was not accepted (after an interview, for some reason or other); the girl had found out that a airplane from the company she would have joined had she been accepted had crashed, with no survivors (The date of the crash being some six months after Mum's reading.
Happenstance, coincidence ????? Of course it proves absolutely nothing to those whose minds are closed to this sort of subject; to those with open minds - well, I guess it's a very coincidental 'could be'; but that girl was convinced.............