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Old 05-28-2007, 10:10 PM
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Default The Heart-Consciousness

EXCERPTS from "Interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek"


Thus the "dreamtime" of the Aboriginals?
Exactly. We have no idea of that in the Western world. I mean, we have absolutely no idea how powerful and what this is. We think that we've got a pretty good handle on the reality side, through our science and our way of perceiving things. But, the dreamtime is so incredible -- if you want to call it the dreamtime.

This is literally a space in the heart. There's an actual physical opening inside the heart. Then, inside of that space is another space. It's a smaller one. It's a tiny space inside. It's usually only maybe four, five, six feet around and the vibration goes up about an octave when you step into that space. And it's in that space that the dreamtime is accessed and where all the phenomenal things that some of the tribes talk about are accessed.

That space -- and they all agree on this -- is older than creation itself. It's before the Big Bang, before anything was it existed, and all life, everywhere, is intimately connected through that space no matter where it is or what is looks like or where it came from. It's all connected. So, that's why the Aboriginals can have an experience and then other people can go into the dreamtime and relive that experience. It's not like watching a move, because you're actually there and you're reliving it in real 3-D time. It's amazing.

I was sitting in Mexico when I was learning this from the Kogi and they made this sound and put me into my heart. Instantaneously, I was in Colombia standing with a group of old men in white robes. I was actually there, physically, really sitting there -- and it was pretty mind-blowing! Then they would come up to me and make another sound and bam! I would be somewhere else, but somewhere just as real as this reality. No difference at all.

The past, present and future are spherical in dreamtime. It's not linear. The polarized mind sees time as past, present, future. It's sees space as x, y and z. It sees everything as broken up into these three components, but dreamtime doesn't. It sees it spherically. Everything's happening at once, at all levels -- past, present and future, and all of what they call the parallel worlds or all the potential possibilities. It's way more vast than it may seen.

What one experiences can be passed directly to anyone else. Further, when two people are in that space consciously, no matter where they are in the universe or anywhere on the planet, they can trade bodies. They can actually step out in the other person's body. It seems to have a time limit and I don't know if it really does, but it did for me when I experienced this. You can actually walk out into another person's body and you're actually in that person's body and feeling what they feel. Switching back seems to happen automatically. Where all this leads to and what it all means, I'm just beginning to understand.
So you were put into this space with a sound initially?
There's a language. This sound is an experience the Kogi call a language that has no words. In other words, the sounds come out of the body and they produce images inside the spirit of the person. And if the images are really complete, it's not just an image but a reality. You're there, wherever it is.

But, that same exact sound said a moment later will produce an entirely different image. So, it isn't like a word has a particular meaning.

I don't really understand what it's based on. I've tried to figure it out and I haven't. But, it goes back to the Bible, where in there it says that before the Tower of Babel there was one language and that one language the whole world knew and that that language allowed all people to speak to each other and even animals. Remember, it said that in there that they could talk to animals. But, science has never found that language. They've looked and looked and looked, but there's not a trace, because it is not a written language.

It's a language that everybody knows. In fact, you know it intimately right now, only at the moment you just have it blocked. But, everybody knows this language.

This language appears to be coming back now, and in that return, as I see it, it would break of the spell of Babylon, of the separation of people by different languages. Eventually, we are going to remember the one language. It allows us to communicate with each other, not only with animals, but bacteria and trees and everything, because from the dreamtime place everything is alive: even rocks are alive, anything that has a mass is alive. So, it's something that we have forgotten, but have not lost. You can't lose it. You couldn't exist without it, from the way the Kogi and aboriginals look at it. You could not be here if you didn't have it within you, if you didn't have that sacred space inside of you. ...

... The creating instrument is the mind, which is polarized. What we're describing, and Gregg is also coming up to the same conclusion with me, is that whenever you pray, such as if you pray for world peace along with billions of other people, the problem is that no matter how pure your intention is, you will always create the polarity. So you will create a world that is partly is war and partly in peace. You'll get both sides -- the dark and the light. This even works even if you're a black magician and you're trying to do something negative. You're going to get the equal positive side. You always will create it because the instrument itself is polarized.

But, you can go into your heart and create form within the tiny space within your heart and, though the creation process is entirely different, it's not based on thoughts and logic, but based on dreaming and emotions. This will create what the intention is, but without the dark side.

Light in the heart has an interesting phenomenon. When you look at this world from here, now, light has shadows because light comes from a source. But, the same light inside the heart, which I've spent so much time looking at and so have other people, has no shadow because the light appears to come from everywhere. And it does the same thing when you create form there. There's no polarity so it doesn't create the opposite of what you're trying to create.

My teachers are saying that this is one of our greatest lessons that we have to remember if we're ever going to get out of this problem that we're in, not only with war, but socially and environmentally and everything that is being destroyed. We need to begin to live and create within our hearts rather than live and create from our minds. ....

The thing is with the merkaba training is that it's very, very complex and needs to be taught in very specific ways, because you're dealing with the mind, but with the heart meditation, I'm encouraging people to begin to teach this or take it out to the world, because you can't misuse it. You're in the heart or you're not, and if you're in the heart you're not going to misuse this. You would never dream from that space of ever doing anything that would do harm. In fact, the heart wouldn't let you anyway.
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There's a constant vibration in the space inside the heart kind of like Om, but it's a little different -- and slightly different for each person. But, that vibration can be used once you've felt it and you know what it is. You can use that vibration to find the space very quickly. The Kogi can talk using their own language in normal ways or, in a matter of two or three seconds, they can switch and go into the heart and begin to communicate in another way totally. ...

Remember the heart. It is supposed to be in control of the mind. That's the way it was supposed to happen. It got inverted over the other way when we fell out of creation. It's not normal and it has caused a lot of problems. As you can see, our world is dying. ...

What's interesting about this is that the mind creates with thoughts and logic, but it sees with light. The heart creates with the emotions and feelings and dreaming, but it sees with darkness. ...

... It's about a state of consciousness or state of awareness of being where you're residing within your heart and everything begins to change without actually doing anything. And so, I've acknowledged from my indigenous teachers to keep putting this out into the world. They believe this is the only answer.

If we go into our hearts, then we begin to dream a new world that doesn't have the same kinds of problems that we now have. The heart knows exactly what to do without you having to think about it. You don't sit in there and think, "Well, OK, I want to change the Iraqi war." It's about just being, in a state of balance within your heart. And as people begin to do that, the dream begins to gather and it begins to change everything. A huge portion of the indigenous people of the world, their leaders, their shamans, their medicine men are doing just this: waiting for us to wake up and remember who we are, why we came here and to no longer function just from our minds, but to let our hearts gain control.
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