OBE: Out of Body Experience (beliefs, recall, advent, Article)

[Nehustan]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

I still feel that this is a topic that is a lot more interesting and important that people evidently suspect.

I agree mate I'm actually very suprised more people haven't contributed, As a post script to my post, I decided at the time of the recounted OBE that the light I detected in the books and alike were traces of peoples 'soul' left imprinted upon them. I couldn't think of any other reason that books and crafted items would appear to have lifeforce.

[Bangbang]

I have been a Lucic Dreamer for at least 42 years. I can remember having sex with many of my teachers...goin all the way back to 2nd grade. Lots of fun! Last week I had 4 lucid dreams within 12 hours. Why should I get up?

[michel]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

Well it should not be too much of a surprise that you are into Lucid Dreams Chris.
I only heard the term once I got here to RF. Understand I have done this for many years and had simply never bothered to get a handle on what other people thought.
My slant was, I told myself I would have "a true dream from the Gates of Horn". That usually worked.

I still feel that this is a topic that is a lot more interesting and important that people evidently suspect.

As do I; I want to try to study Astral projection. I have theories, but they are only at the 'germination' stage.

[Suraj]

There is a difference between a lucid dream and an AP, right? I read that Lucid dreams can be used to project. Basically, you just become aware you are dreaming, and you can project.

But, I not sure if you're already in the astral when you're dreaming, and simply gain awareness of it in Lucid dreams, or that Lucid dreams is a state of sleep.

I know that from what I've read about AP, the astral contains both manifested objects and people or real objects or people. To differentiate between them, you will note that the manifested objects have a repeated pattern of doing things, like machines.

Sometimes, in our dreams we encounter people we've never seen before. That our mind could not have possibly manifested. And sometimes, we encounter departed loved ones from the past, who enter our dreams as if they're really communicating to us through the medium of dream. They come and tell us things we need to know. Such as "It is going to be ok"

My mother has had dreams where she's met her great great grandmother coming to tell her something.

[joeboonda]

OBE also happens to people having a NDE, near-death experience where their spirit leaves their body, quite interesting to read their stories. My friend told me that back when we used to do a lot of LSD, that he saw me outside my body lots of times, he said,"you were beautiful brother",lol. I don't remember being outside my body, but I don't remember a lot except the hallucinations and all. There is a book called 'Out on a Limb' by Shirley MacLaine, who is a 'new-ager' describing her obe, and she spoke of a silver cord connecting her to her body. Solomon in Ecclesiastes 12:3-7 wrote of this, 'if ever the silver cord be loosed', speaking of death. So, it could be dangerous to do this, physically, and I believe spiritually as well. For the 'spirit guides' one meets, and the world into which one goes, is, imo, the wrong spirit world, and is forbidden, for we are to pray to God engaging our mind, not with vain repetitions, and such. So, I'd be careful about it all, learn all you can from many sources, that would be wise.

[YmirGF]

I have of course heard of the "silver chord" thingy... but have never seen any evidence of anything holding me back. I therefore cannot lend any support to that idea.

Now, since there is some interest what do you folks think?
Is there a difference between consciously having a OBE during meditation, or having an OBE during a dream state?

I suspect that the Ray Thomas of the Moody Blues fame also understood the OBE phenomenah well. This is from "To our children's children's children" (1969)

"Floating"

Floating free as a bird
Sixty foot leaps it's so absurd
From up here you should see the view
Such a lot of space for me and you

Oh you'd like it
Gliding around get your feet off the ground
Oh you'd like it
Do as you please with so much ease

Now I know how it feels
To have wings on my heels
To take a stroll among the stars
Get a close look at planet Mars

Oh you'd like it
Gliding around get your feet off the ground
Oh you'd like it
Do as you please with so much ease

Bouncing about on the moon
Guess you'll all be up here soon
The candy stores they'll be brand new
And you'll buy a rock with the moon right through

Oh you'd like it
Gliding around get your feet off the ground
Oh you'd like it
Do as you please with so much ease

Come fly...
Come fly...
Come fly...

[Steve]

Hi all,
Interesting topic, i am curious about what/if any you think the implications of genuiene OBE's to evolution\naturalism etc. Eg for those of you who know we have a soul/spirit etc that can leave the body, does knowing this change the way you look at things in the natural world?

Cheers
Steve.

[ChrisP]

Originally Posted by Steve

Hi all,
Interesting topic, i am curious about what/if any you think the implications of genuiene OBE's to evolution\naturalism etc. Eg for those of you who know we have a soul/spirit etc that can leave the body, does knowing this change the way you look at things in the natural world?

Cheers
Steve.

More in the mind
Than the body this feeling
A sense at the end
Of a circular line
That is drawn at an angle
I see when I'm with you
To navigate waters and finally answer to-yes!

Sorry couldn't resist.

[michel]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

I have of course heard of the "silver chord" thingy... but have never seen any evidence of anything holding me back. I therefore cannot lend any support to that idea.

Neither have I. But I am sure we all have woken, at some stage, with the remnants of a dream (or maybe nightmare) that we were falling fast, and never quite reached the ground.

I have read a book that describes that as being representative of the soul being returned to the body 'in a hurry' because something has awoken us from a deep sleep. Possible ? - Possibly.

[Purple Thyme]

Hey this subject was really interesting. I had OBE also but got so scared I returned to my body and was aware of the silver chord theory. Anyone got any new thing to say. would love to hear some more. I am very interested in this subject. I read Monroe's
Out of Body Experiences several times. Hope to hear from somebody on the subject.