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[EnhancedSpirit]

Originally Posted by Mike182

Feathers, EnhancedSpirit, you do know we love you both, don't you? i just wanted to make sure you knew that

Mike, this whole post just made my heart swell with compassion. Not only was the whole message full of FABULOUS energy, I got to share your blessing with one of my favoritist (my own word) people.

Animals, animals, my mom and I took my daughter and 4 of her cousins to the zoo today. We feed the giraffes, and they have the coolest exhibit of flying foxes (the big dog faced bats), they are SOOOOOO cute, I want one.

At the otter exhibit, they had the otters in their little house thing, and the handlers hid fish all through the grassy area of there cage, and when they let the otters out, it was like watching kids on easter. They ran all over the place sticking there noses in the plush green grass looking for fish, and when they found one they hop over and jump in the water and eat there fish on there belly then back to the hunt. That was great. There were lots of great birds of prey, they have an area that takes care of injured birds, Florida has quite a variety of them. Any way, we just had a great time today.

Originally Posted by Draka

Well, I was hoping the kid was coming yesterday. I spent the majority of the day with regular contractions. Even timed them out and they kept getting closer until they were down to 5 minutes apart and then went to the hospital...where the dang things stopped! I had started to dialate more as well, but for some reason it just quit. Guess James had second thoughts about coming out. At this point I just want it over and done with. Get him out and in my arms.

Braxton Hicks, I hate it when that happens. . . . .

My friend and her husband used breast manipulation to induce her labor. You can probably Google "breast manipulation to induce labor", and find out the technique if you are interested and/or haven't heard about it. DO NOT DRINK CASTOR OIL. I had another friend who tried this and got nothing but sick . . . the other way is not only natural, it's rather enjoyable, and it's one more little way to involve Turk in this whole process. But we also can't wait to meet your little man.

[Draka]

Originally Posted by EnhancedSpirit

Braxton Hicks, I hate it when that happens. . . . .

My friend and her husband used breast manipulation to induce her labor. You can probably Google "breast manipulation to induce labor", and find out the technique if you are interested and/or haven't heard about it. DO NOT DRINK CASTOR OIL. I had another friend who tried this and got nothing but sick . . . the other way is not only natural, it's rather enjoyable, and it's one more little way to involve Turk in this whole process. But we also can't wait to meet your little man.

I had thought about them being Braxton-Hicks contractions, but I was actually dialating and they were progressing like normal labor. Maybe they were, but it was just odd. I'm just hoping for my water to break and kick this thing into gear.

I've actually been teasing him about this today...we'll see

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by Draka

Spells are welcome for a healthy delivery anyway. Timely would be nice

if memory serves me right, Hecate (on of my favourite to work with) was often invoked during child birth back in "the day".... while i suspect the doctor will look at you in a weird way if you bring in candles and start doing "funny stuff", i will ask her blessings upon both mother and child

and be darn sure we want photos!

[kreeden]

I'm doing well Mike . Thanks for asking . And you ?

I imagine that you DO feel it is time to meet your son Draka . And I hope that happens soon . But more important , I hope that both of you are healthy . { the first always seems to be shy ... }

Purple Thyme , welcome . I hope that you don't mind , but I looked the Cardinal up . Now , we each find our own meaning in such things , but I can't find any reference to Health with the Cardinal . No direct reference at else . " Finding your Soul Song " is as close as I came . And that appears to apply better in your case . I am happy that you are finding Nature .

Feathers , I couldn't help but notice them . They were , are , EVERYWHERE ! I even got one wet yesterday . It was standing along a bush road and I don't see it untill my front tire was hitting a pot hole filled with rain water ... The poor little guy got soaked . { and I was only doing about 20 mph at the time } .

[EnhancedSpirit]

Originally Posted by Mike182

if memory serves me right, Hecate (on of my favourite to work with) was often invoked during child birth back in "the day".... while i suspect the doctor will look at you in a weird way if you bring in candles and start doing "funny stuff", i will ask her blessings upon both mother and child

and be darn sure we want photos!

Hecate is also the Goddess of the Crossroads, very appropriate for our Dragon Mother to be. I will also call on Hathor-Egyptian Earth Goddess:

Hathor is another manifestation of the Great Mother Goddess worshipped since prehistoric times. As a great Egyptian Goddess, she was the protectress of all women and female animals. Seven or nine Hathors were said to appear at the time of child birthing to tell the baby's destiny.

Hathor symbolized the eternity of life, the laws that never change through the process of life. She is the eternal, life-supporting principle.

In Egyptian art, she was often portrayed as the winged cow of creation who gave birth to the universe. Sometimes she was a huge lioness with eyes of fire. The sycamore at the edge of the desert was her tree.

[kreeden]

Hi ES . You posted as I was writting ... don't want you to think that I was being stuck-up or anything .

Children { regardless of age } and the zoo . I'm a child when I'm at a zoo too . Glad that you enjoyed yourself .

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by kreeden

I'm doing well Mike . Thanks for asking . And you ?

really well thanks! i had another big exam today, sociology, i did well (i think) and am happy i did my best, so i'm in a great mood, and i got a hug off my mum today which doesn't sound like much, but after the recents months of tension, is almost like a breakthrough

[Feathers in Hair]

Draka, if I may ask, do you sense the little one to be a 'dragon spirit'? I want to compose a poem/ blessing, but don't want to jump to the assumption that he's got a certain type of spirit when he doesn't.

One of the wonderful things about acknowledging many gods and goddesses is that there are so many 'in charge' of aspects of our lives! I love the personal relationship that we have with our dieites, and how we can usually know which of them our fellow members might call on. As expected, I'll be asking for help from Kwan Yin and Artemis. (With luck, both of my favorites happen to be goddesses associated with healthy childbirth!)

Turk, please know that we're also thinking about you during this time! *hugs*