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Old 08-22-2004, 10:33 PM
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what your thoughts about vendors at Pow-wows?
Good, bad, indiferent?

on one hand it can create a carnival atmosphere in what is supposed to be a spiritual gathering, but on the other hand it is a great opportunity to get craft supplies for the winter.

any thoughts?

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Old 08-23-2004, 08:14 AM
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I think it is a great way for people who depend on the sale of their crafts to survive. I know people who craft for a living, and that is their main source of income, going to festivals and pow wows and markets and such to sell them. I do also believe that they should be kept in another part of the atmosphere than the religious part. And should be a totally different atmosphere.
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I've always thought of the vendors' merchandise as sharing the culture and spirituality of the Native Americans. I'm grateful it is all being kept alive. I believe the crafts are a part of spirituality.
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I agree that one of the most important parts of a Pow-wow is to teach others about our culture and show them that it is alive and well...
And I admit that I love visiting the worthwhile vendors at the pow-wows to get ideas and supplies and just to talk.

However, (and here comes my 'devil's advocate') much of the stuff being sold by vendors is so much kitch... bamboo flutes with dyed chicken feathers, plastic dream-catchers, porcelin indian princess dolls and toy tomahawks all made in china.

some of the worst though is seeing things that are ment to be sacred such as medicine pipes for sale.

at what point does selling religion/culture go to far?

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I think selling anything that they themselves did not create is going too far. I also think selling things that has no cultural or spiritual meaning to them is going too far.
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I believe the same. When you don't sell what you yourself make. Than you are not being in the spirit of the pow wow.
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many vendors sell for crafts-people who can't sell for themselves, or get crafts to sell in trade for materials and other items. Many vendor make at least some of their items themselves and get the rest from others who for various reasons can't/won't sell for themselves. Is this in the spirit of the pow-wow?

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Yes, however, selling items made in china, or taiwan is not. I'm sorry, I guess I should of made that more clear in my previous post.
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Hello all .

I have been giving this a lot of though and it isn't as straight forward as it would appear at first glance .

First of , just what do you mean why Pow-wow Painted Wolf ? Here in Canada , a Pow-wow can be any gethering of First Nation People and may have very little Spiritual meaning to it . It can be little more then a family gathering and sometimes is . You could have a " Pow-wow " where everyone there are Catholics . So they would not place as much importance on the items being sold .

As for the Spiritual value of the items , I understand what you are saying and agree . To a degree . I agree that a " truely " Spiritual item should be just that . But many of these things are little more that toys , which in it's self can take away from the true meaning of the items . However , take the " turkey feathers " for excample . Not is there a matter of the cost of paying for the real item , which some may not be able to afford , but if they are only going to be used to hang on a wall or from the mirror of a car , then I think that it is a good thing that we are not wasting Eagle feathers on them . The important thing , I think , is that the people buying them know that difference .

This is a problem that goes beyond Pow-wows I believe . With all respect to the beliefs of the First Nation People { not I am not one } . Many customs have gotten very expensive . So , what do we do ? { I mean people in general here } . We can either cease to follow those customs , or we can find cheaper ways to follow them . Yes , I agree that something is lost along the way . But life is change and we have to change with it , like it or not . If you are First Nation , then you know what you have to go through just to get an Eagle feather these days . Or what most would have to go through { I have two setting beside me now , which an Eagle gave me and I have sent another to a friend , but I am happy to say the the Eagle still flys } So personally I am glad that they are not selling Eagle feathers .

As to how far selling a culture go before it goes too far .... well , I guess that is something we each have to decide upon ? There is a demand , And that demand will be filled . Either by " Plastic Shamans " or by others . That is the only real choice . Which will fill that demand ? I am sorry if I sound hard . I wish it were otherwise , but we live in a hard world . And I don't think there are any easy answers . But know that they are only selling " toys " and that they can not take that which they don't understand . They can not sell you , your People or your Spirit .
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I agree with the fact that something must be done for a "rule" at a real "POW WOW"!
I also think that without the availibility of hand crafted works of the various tribes, something would be missing. The spirit of the one making the item is shared with all the world and the essence of the people is known to the world. The cheap commercial junk should not be allowed anywhere near a spiritual sharing of the people.
I have eagle feathers that were dropped by one, I hope no one is harming eagles for profit!!! I have been to many Pow Wows on Apache lands and some on the east coast and the "Swap Meet" atmosphear is repulsive. To buy supplies is a great thing at a big gathering! I see nothing wrong with that at all. I hope there are more posts and threads in this forum of Native American viewpoints,Thanks!
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