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The irony is you propose to get more to life than a bare existence by pursuing an non-sustainable economic model. Interesting. Ours may be the last generation that has the luxury of believing our lifestyle can go on forever.
All the more reason to take advantage of it while the opportunity is there.
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Old 08-11-2010, 01:37 PM
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All the more reason to take advantage of it while the opportunity is there.
The more we take advantage of the situation by destroying the earth, the worse will be the ultimate outcome.
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The more we take advantage of the situation by destroying the earth, the worse will be the ultimate outcome.
Everybody else is doing it. My individual contribution would be irrelevant, so I'd rather maximize my life experience than suffer due to a meaningless ideological gesture.

But I've always been a pragmatist. I admire those who are ideologically-driven, and support and encourage their decision to make personal sacrifices for the larger good. Kudos to them.
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Everybody else is doing it. My individual contribution would be irrelevant, so I'd rather maximize my life experience than suffer due to a meaningless ideological gesture.

But I've always been a pragmatist. I admire those who are ideologically-driven, and support and encourage their decision to make personal sacrifices for the larger good. Kudos to them.
The facts will out.
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I'm unfamiliar with this colloquialism. Or is it a mistake?
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I'm unfamiliar with this colloquialism. Or is it a mistake?
No mistake. I'm just saying time will tell, reality will prevail, etc.
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No mistake. I'm just saying time will tell.
Ah, thanks.

I guess I don't understand your comment in the context of my post though.
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Ah, thanks.

I guess I don't understand your comment in the context of my post though.
Well, I'm not directly addressing your post, which so far as I know was about your values. Values are values. Instead, I was addressing the larger question of whether capitalism is a sustainable economic system. I don't believe that capitalism as it is now practiced is sustainable, and I believe time will show that to be the case.

Now, I think some form of capitalism might be sustainable, but not the form we currently practice and which is being adopted everywhere from India to China. And I believe the more intensely we practice the current model, the sooner it will destroy our quality of life. But time will tell whether I'm right or wrong about any of that. After all, I could be wrong.
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I gotta tell you, I want more in life than a bare existence. I would find life very boring being reliant on the government for my next meal.
And THAT'S exactly why most people wouldn't be like a cow in the field under a socialist system. That's the incentive you're looking for - most people are unsatisfied with bare existence, so they put effort into the system to become more.
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I was actually surprised when I learned what "classic" capitalism was supposed to be. It is not meant to be sustainable. It is almost like it does not want to make Marxism look too inviable by comparison.

Previously, I assumed that there would be some common sense thrown in for good measure. Following a system that is basically intent on destroying the planet is simply insane, even if it turns out that one benefits in the short term from that.
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