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Old 01-31-2011, 08:49 PM
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Default What is the difference between Atheistic Luciferianism and LaVey Satanism?

Theistic Luciferianism is where they look up to Lucifer as a brother and follow what he did, as I've been told by a Luciferian I've met named Dansity.

Atheistic Luciferianism I have no clue what it is.

LaVey Satanism is pretty obvious to know what it is. It is best described as self-worship and to some symbolic satanism.
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I can't really see too much of a difference. Atheistic Luciferians seem to be more secretive, and more into magic. I could be wrong though, it's hard to tell with both sides because the intiates or practitioners are so full of individuality that it's almost impossible to generalize them.
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I can't really see too much of a difference. Atheistic Luciferians seem to be more secretive, and more into magic. I could be wrong though, it's hard to tell with both sides because the intiates or practitioners are so full of individuality that it's almost impossible to generalize them.
Really? Atheist and Magic? I would like to know how that works.
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Uhm. There are some atheists that believe in magic...
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Uhm. There are some atheists that believe in magic...
Really, i thought atheist do not believe in any supernatural 'thing' including magic and reject them all.
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Really, i thought atheist do not believe in any supernatural 'thing' including magic and reject them all.
This is a DIR, but I thought I'd add something whilst adhering to the rules.

Atheism simply means "no God belief". You can be an atheist and believe in anything, as long as it's not God. Reincarnation, karma, magic, curses, ghosts, fairies, talking animals, aliens, alien based creationism...

Perhaps you were thinking of naturalism?



As to the OP, if there is little difference between atheist Luciferians and Satanists, what is the difference between theist Satanists and Luciferians, too?
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This is a DIR, but I thought I'd add something whilst adhering to the rules.

Atheism simply means "no God belief". You can be an atheist and believe in anything, as long as it's not God. Reincarnation, karma, magic, curses, ghosts, fairies, talking animals, aliens, alien based creationism...

Perhaps you were thinking of naturalism?



As to the OP, if there is little difference between atheist Luciferians and Satanists, what is the difference between theist Satanists and Luciferians, too?
So that is kinda confusing...because an atheist did tell me an atheist is one who doesn't believe in no reincarnation, karma, magic, curses, fairies, talking animals...

I believe in it all.

But also God...God is defined as a supernatural forces responsible for the universe, that doesn't mean 'religion'.
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God doesn't have to be involved with the supernatural forces that live in or amongst our universe.

I know a man on facebook that believes in the devil but not God. The only thing that is more confusing than that is a son of a god but not a god which is impossible.
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Really? Atheist and Magic? I would like to know how that works.
Atheistic luciferians are usually autotheistic or pantheistic or a mixture of both. An autotheist and a pantheist have atheistic properties but they're not exactly the same as an atheist.
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As to the OP, if there is little difference between atheist Luciferians and Satanists, what is the difference between theist Satanists and Luciferians, too?
It depends on which side of the coin. Theistic Satanism is different from Atheistic and Theistic Luciferianism. Theistic Satanist believe in Satan as an actual deity and Theistic Luciferians believe in Lucifer as an actual deity. Atheistic Luciferians don't think that Lucifer is an actual deity.
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