Is something wrong with our make up? (evolve, advent, Zen)

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by Papersock

Maybe there's something wrong with a fish's make-up because if you put them on dry land they die.

We simply did not develop for surviving in freezing weather. Even if we have to, we have the ingenuity to creat warm clothing for ourselves, so we don't have any reason to develop to survive in freezing weather.

A few fish have developed lungs. But there really is little advantage for them to have done so.

Are you saying our intelligence "turned off" our ability to change....
may be it has stopped us advancing in other ways?

[Zeno]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

A few fish have developed lungs. But there really is little advantage for them to have done so.

Are you saying our intelligence "turned off" our ability to change....
may be it has stopped us advancing in other ways?

Nothing can turn off our ability to change. Our ability to behaviorally adapt to coldness made it unnecessary to evolve to handle the cold like penguins or other animals.

The only reason someone can handle frostbite would pass that characteristic on is if they had a reproductive advantage over humans who could not handle frostbite. But because there was no advantage, it wasn't selected for.

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by Zeno

Nothing can turn off our ability to change. Our ability to behaviorally adapt to coldness made it unnecessary to evolve to handle the cold like penguins or other animals.

The only reason someone can handle frostbite would pass that characteristic on is if they had a reproductive advantage over humans who could not handle frostbite. But because there was no advantage, it wasn't selected for.

I would have thought the inuit would have developed some resistance by now, it would have been a distinct advantage for them.

[Zeno]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

I would have thought the inuit would have developed some resistance by now, it would have been a distinct advantage for them.

I am sure the Inuit have passed down vast amounts of knowledge on how to stay warm and avoid frostbite in the first place. Granted they do live in cold conditions, but they also have generations of knowledge on what furs are the warmest, how to avoid frostbite, and how to properly insulate, and how to use fire to their advantage.

Also, just because something is a survival advantage does not mean it is a reproductive advantage. Even if the ones who were less susceptible to frostbite lived longer, it doesn't mean that the opposite sex found them more appealing, or that they had more offspring.

[Terrywoodenpic]

I have only met one inuit woman... she was intelligent and friendly however she would definitely have been a very acquired taste as a partner.

They seem to have had no trouble in acquiring other survival characteristics in their body shape and faces.

[Papersock]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

A few fish have developed lungs. But there really is little advantage for them to have done so.

That's exactly what I meant

Are you saying our intelligence "turned off" our ability to change....
may be it has stopped us advancing in other ways?

I've heard that our use of midwifes and modern medical methods of child birth has kept us from developing better birthing bodies. They may not be a terrible thing, though, since the only way for that to happen is for the bad-birthers to die.
Nature is cruel

[Shadow Wolf]

I think it's due to warm clothes, warm homes, warm showers, and other sources of heat that make having to force ourselves to adapt obsolete.

[lillitruthseeker]

i wonder if eskimos or people in really cold climates like iceland or someplace have adapted better bodies for being in the cold temps

[jtartar]

[quote=Terrywoodenpic;828289]Why is it that only man suffers from frostbite? Just about every other animal can put up with freezing temperatures, even walk and sleep on Ice, at least for a reasonable length of time. And not have their hands, feet ears or noses freeze.
And it is not just about having fur or feathers.

Some animals can even shut their processes down and lower their temperature to that of the surroundings and not come to harm..

Terrywoodenpic,
God created man with a brain much greater than animals. Even though some animals posses atributes that are greater than ours, such as sight, strength, speed, and even longer life, man was created far superior, overall. Man has the ability to adapt to conditions that no other animal has. Because of man's superior intellectual capacity he is able to live in almost any place on earth. Animals cannot do this. Many animals die because of just a small increase or decrease in temperature.
God's cardinal atributes are Justice, Wisdom Power,and Love. These atributes He has placed in man, even though in a very limited amount compared with Him. Because of these atributes man can adapt to many situations that other animals cannot. We definitely are not inferior to any of God's animal creation.

[stephenw]

Originally Posted by jtartar