Biblical Universalism. (Jesus Christ, priests, ritual, moral, punishment)

[LoveNeverFails]

I myself am a Christian Universalist. I believe that Jesus died to save the world and accomplished that.

Christian-Universalism.com ~ Biblical Christian Universalism Index

As defined in the above link...

Christian Universalism is different from Unitarian Universalism. Unlike Unitarian Universalism, Christian Universalism is the belief in universal salvation through Jesus Christ, the incarnate Lord. Christian Universalists are both Christian and Universalist. And we believe that is how Christianity as a whole should be understood. The Christian Universalist belief is that God manifested Himself in human form as a man named Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, who was the perfect moral and spiritual teacher for all mankind, for all time. Jesus Christ came to earth to teach people about the unconditional love of our Heavenly Father, and to encourage us to forgive one another for our sins, as God forgives us. Jesus taught his followers to be merciful, peaceful, charitable, and full of love and compassion for all human beings.

Though we may recognize goodness and value in some other religions besides Christianity, Christian Universalists believe that following the way of Jesus is the best way -- indeed the only way -- of truly walking in the path of God. But it is not any creed, confession, or religious label that saves us; it is the way of Jesus itself, our trust in the Almighty, and our own attempt to live according to the simple yet profound principles taught by Jesus. Some people who call themselves "Christian" but do not have the love of Christ in their heart may actually be less Christian in Jesus' eyes than some people who do not profess Christianity at all, but who practice the way of Christ in their everyday life.

Universal salvation is the main belief that distinguishes the Christian Universalist faith from traditional, fundamentalist forms of Christianity. Universalist Christian believers accept the authority of the Bible, but we disagree with the way most churches and Christians have interpreted certain Biblical passages about hell and salvation. Yes, there is such a thing as hell for some souls after death, but in the original, untranslated text of the Bible there is not a single verse of scripture that teaches that hell is eternal. In fact, there are many verses in the Bible that strongly suggest that every soul God has ever created will someday escape hell and be reconciled to their Creator.

Christian Universalism, therefore, is Biblical Universalism, the belief that the Bible itself teaches the universal reconciliation of all souls to God at the end of time. The Bible says that this will happen because of the power of Jesus Christ to save souls from hell. There is no "point of no return," such as committing an "unpardonable sin" or dying without accepting Christ, that could ever cause a soul to be lost forever. No one is beyond hope, because Jesus Christ has absolute power and as much time as he needs to bring God's goal of universal salvation to fruition. Hell is a redeeming, cleansing, purifying fire that destroys the satanic ego and reforms the human personality in the image of Christ -- not an eternal vindictive torture by an angry and sadistic god.

Popular Bible translations pervert the meaning of important verses about hell. This has been done because of misguided religious tradition, in an attempt to support a pagan concept of eternal torment that was not part of original Biblical Christianity, but came to be accepted by the Roman Catholic Church and also continues to be taught in most Protestant churches. The Bible uses colorful language to describe the punishment of the wicked, but this is within the context of ancient Jewish apocalyptic parables and visionary literature and was never intended to be taken literally. Furthermore, every verse in common versions of the Bible (such as the King James or NIV) that speaks of "eternal" or "everlasting" damnation is a blatant mistranslation of the original Greek or Hebrew, neither of which uses a word referring to eternity in the Bible, but only a limited or unspecified period of time.

According to the Biblical Gospel, as affirmed by Christian Universalism, Christianity is not supposed to be a harsh and pessimistic religion that condemns billions of people to an eternity of pain, just because they didn't happen to profess the correct religious doctrines while they were alive on earth. No, true Christianity is a hopeful and optimistic faith, a faith that announces the good news for all the world -- the positive and uplifting message that through Jesus Christ, all souls can someday be saved! That is the belief of Christian Universalism, and Christian Universalists hope that eventually, all Christians will understand that the universalist interpretation of Christianity is what Jesus intended. Jesus came to earth to tell people about universal salvation, not eternal damnation.

Any thoughts?

[lunamoth]

Well, I don't know about every word of your post but I consider myself a Trinitarian Christian Universalist. Welcome!

[wizanda]

Mar 7:11-13
(11) But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is an Offering (Corban), that is to say, a sacrifice (gift), by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
(12) And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
(13) Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Mat 10:34
(34) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Mat 27:6-10
(6) And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the Offering (treasury = Corban), because it is the price of blood.
(7) And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
(8) Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.
(9) Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Zechariah (Jeremy) the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
(10) And gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord appointed me.

Zec 11:7-14
(7) And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Grace (Beauty), and the other I called Inheritance (Bands); and I fed the flock.
(8) Three shepherds (Pharisees, Levites, and Sadducees) also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
(9) Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
(10) And I took my staff, even Grace (Beauty), and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
(11) And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
(12) And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
(13) And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.
(14) Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Inheritance (Bands), that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by wizanda

Mar 7:11-13
(11) But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is an Offering (Corban), that is to say, a sacrifice (gift), by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
(12) And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
(13) Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Mat 10:34
(34) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Mat 27:6-10
(6) And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the Offering (treasury = Corban), because it is the price of blood.
(7) And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
(8) Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.
(9) Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Zechariah (Jeremy) the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
(10) And gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord appointed me.


Zec 11:7-14
(7) And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Grace (Beauty), and the other I called Inheritance (Bands); and I fed the flock.
(8) Three shepherds (Pharisees, Levites, and Sadducees) also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
(9) Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
(10) And I took my staff, even Grace (Beauty), and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
(11) And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
(12) And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
(13) And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.
(14) Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Inheritance (Bands), that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.

Yeah, there's a happy post.

[wizanda]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

Yeah, there's a happy post.

Really am Sorry, did say would come as Jonah (Zan-Nun in the Quran)....Could be worse, might not have posted it for us all to see....
As you may have noted, have had to add correct translations all the way through that....some of us are trying to help and some hinder....

Consider also some of us only get 66 books to learn this and others have more, it’s like special treatment for those in the £$£$£......
Maybe why God sent me too help in 1977 when they released Maccabees 3/4, which pertains to the abomination of desolation (daily sacrifice was removed)….

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by wizanda

Really am Sorry, did say would come as Jonah (Zan-Nun in the Quran)....Could be worse, might not have posted it for us all to see....
As you may have noted, have had to add correct translations all the way through that....some of us are trying to help and some hinder....

Consider also some of us only get 66 books to learn this and others have more, it’s like special treatment for those in the £$£$£......
Maybe why God sent me too help in 1977 when they released Maccabees 3/4, which pertains to the abomination of desolation (daily sacrifice was removed)….

Are you speaking in code?

[wizanda]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

Are you speaking in code?

Thought it made sense, can reiterate, yet not in this section

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by wizanda

Thought it made sense, can reiterate, yet not in this section

It's OK wizanda...no need. Sorry I just don't get your message.

[wizanda]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

It's OK wizanda...no need. Sorry I just don't get your message.

There is need...it will need thinking about points and you will see where it is aimed at....it was written to help, so don’t underestimate pearls of wisdom….