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Old 03-12-2012, 12:11 PM
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Why do Satanists use upside down crosses if they don't even believe Jesus/Yahweh exist?
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:13 PM
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Because Satanism is a reaction to Christianity, and therefore mocking it makes perfect sense.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:35 PM
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I am first and foremost a Setian and therefore I have no use for the inverted cross as christianity holds no meaning for me, mocking it serves no purpose. However, as I am also in a remote region of my black heart still a Satanist the inverted cross symbolizes for me the concept of the denial of Christ as savior and the love and exaltation of Self as true savior. Where the "fall" of man is actually his rise towards divinity, and a world in which up is down, left is right, evil is good, and dark is light.

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The cross is a two dimensional representation of a cube, like the pattern used to make a very simple box. It is a geometrical symbol, like the pentagram or hexagram. There is a current fad in jewelry -- which I guess most here being guys don't know about -- that is a sideways cross in a bracelet or choker necklace. Dunno about its metaphysical symbolism, but am guessing it is just trend following for the majority of wearers. Just like an upside down cross was a goth accessory, rather than a statement of belief in Satan, for many who wore one.
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The cross is a two dimensional representation of a cube, like the pattern used to make a very simple box. It is a geometrical symbol, like the pentagram or hexagram. There is a current fad in jewelry -- which I guess most here being guys don't know about -- that is a sideways cross in a bracelet or choker necklace. Dunno about its metaphysical symbolism, but am guessing it is just trend following for the majority of wearers. Just like an upside down cross was a goth accessory, rather than a statement of belief in Satan, for many who wore one.
I curious about your statement of the cross being a fashion statement. I would estimate that most here are aware of it, and are also aware of that wearing a cross is a cultural left-over from a time of very deep superstition, and is for many people nothing more than adherence to a cultural norm that is so ingrained into our culture that few people question it.

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Why do Satanists use upside down crosses if they don't even believe Jesus/Yahweh exist?
Satanism is a very strong denial of and opposition to Christianity. But I too have wondered why the upside down cross, because supposedly Peter was crucified in this manner which would, IMO, make an inverted cross a sign of even deeper subservience to Christianity as this person, like Peter, would not see themselves as being worthy of being killed in the same manner as Jesus.
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It is for rejection / denial of Christ in Christianity. However, it is quite a dumb Satanic symbol as it is actually St. Peter's cross, a symbol of not even being worthy to die the same way as Christ. Satanism suffers from this tendency to ignore historical fact quite often.
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I have no use for upside-down crosses or baphomets. As a person whom realizes the meanings of the symbols they're sort of off topic. Probably the only legit symbols we have are the Sigils of Lucifer, Inverse Pentagram, and a remotely the alchemy symbol for brimstone. I say that of course as someone that is a Devil worshiping heathen... If I don't feel they're useful I doubt the rest of this group would even care about them.
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However, it is quite a dumb Satanic symbol as it is actually St. Peter's cross, a symbol of not even being worthy to die the same way as Christ. Satanism suffers from this tendency to ignore historical fact quite often.
That is an excellent point, thanks Doors.

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A cross seems pretty anti-God itself... It's wearing a killing device that killed your God! Now upside down... Things get interesting
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I used to post on a site that had a member who is Asatru and he had a signature "Your gawd died nailed to a cross. My God carries a big hammer. Any questions?"
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