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Old 10-31-2009, 04:13 PM
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Idea, no one has said the intro page is scripture.
then who cares if it is changed or not?
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:15 PM
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then who cares if it is changed or not?
If you don't care then don't participate in this thread.

If you do care, here's my response: While the intro page may not be "scripture," it is important enough for the Church to include in every copy of the Book of Mormon printed. That suggests it has some value. It also reflects the Church's position on what the Book of Mormon is - a history of a various groups of people, including the Lamanites. The Church's position has changed. I'm wondering what people think of that and what changes may be expected in the future.

But, if you don't care, don't participate.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:10 PM
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I'm wondering what people think of that and what changes may be expected in the future.
My guess would be that changes to the support material (intro page, guide to the scriptures, etc) will change however it is needed to bring it into line with truth.

If we were to think of it as a continuum, one end might be "the entire book is allegory and none of it actually happened", and however "Animated Stories from the Book of Mormon" depicts the stories is the other. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Further scientific studies will help clarify which parts of the spectrum are not accurate, but most details will remain unexplained.
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As many of you know, I don't necessarily believe the Book of Mormon events to have literally happened. I believe the day may come when the Church is in harmony with this position. I also believe the 2007? change to the introduction page represents the slow development to my position.

Previous title page said: "After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.”


Now it says: "After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are among the ancestors of the American Indians."

What do you think of the change? What does it signify in the greater scheme of things?
Some Jeredites, some Nephites, some Lamanites...blah, blah, blah.

It all happened EXACTLY as written in the Book of Mormon, NONE of it was made up JUST to illustrate a point.

The SAME thing will LITERALLY happen in these last days...

NEAR total destruction of the inhabitants of NORTH AMERICA and the WORLD will RESULT BECAUSE of INIQUITY that PERMIATES the WORLD.

The Book of Mormon is a PARALLEL to OUR TIME...

LEARN FROM THE PAST !!!!
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To me it doesn't really matter if the Book of Mormon is literal or not. We can learn many things from fictional stories. It would be better to have someone believe the Book of Mormon is not literal than to have them not believe in it at all.

Personally I think the time will come when there is evidence to support the Book of Mormon. I just don't think we are looking in the right places yet. Out of all the land in the western hemisphere what percent of it has been archeologically examined? I watched an anti-LDS video about the Book of Mormon and they brought up a good point. The ruins in south America could not be from the people of the Book of Mormon because they were built about 10th or 11th century AD. So my next question, if we know those ruins aren't from the Book of Mormon people. WHY the heck do we keep looking there for evidences of them?!?! Obviously we wont find any!
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:08 PM
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Just as I feel the the people of the Philippines are one of the Lost Tribes of Israel. I think one of the reasons it is growing so rapidly there is because the spirit is working in them especially.
I remember one of the missionaries I served with talking about some record that Christ visited the Philippines that somebody had at their house. I don't remember the conversation exactly. But there was a dream that somebody wrote at the end of it that was about the the Catholic church not being true. I'll have to contact him and see if I have my story straight.
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To me it doesn't really matter if the Book of Mormon is literal or not. We can learn many things from fictional stories. It would be better to have someone believe the Book of Mormon is not literal than to have them not believe in it at all.

Personally I think the time will come when there is evidence to support the Book of Mormon. I just don't think we are looking in the right places yet. Out of all the land in the western hemisphere what percent of it has been archeologically examined? I watched an anti-LDS video about the Book of Mormon and they brought up a good point. The ruins in south America could not be from the people of the Book of Mormon because they were built about 10th or 11th century AD. So my next question, if we know those ruins aren't from the Book of Mormon people. WHY the heck do we keep looking there for evidences of them?!?! Obviously we wont find any!
Proof of the Book of Mormon of course is a spiritual one. But there are people who search for physical evidences of Nephites even though BYU professionals tend to shy away from giving the appearance of doing that. Here's a link to a website that is growing old but there is a lot of information about the MesoAmerican theory of Book of Mormon geography and I think they still put out a free monthly email newsletter.

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To me it doesn't really matter if the Book of Mormon is literal or not. We can learn many things from fictional stories. It would be better to have someone believe the Book of Mormon is not literal than to have them not believe in it at all.
I completely agree that it's better than nothing.
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if you have a desire to know if the book of mormon is true just ask God in prayer. If you are lds you should want to gain truth. fiction isn't truth. it is better for people to believe the stories are true than to believe that they are fiction. Why practice a belief if the stories are fiction?
My position is that it doesn't matter whether it's fact or fiction. The point is that it's from God. Wouldn't you practice a belief if you thought God had sent you stories to guide you?
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