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Old 04-29-2007, 07:48 AM
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So how will the Moshiach establish a world of peace and universal understanding of the one true God? How will he gain that level of influence outside the Jewish community? Will he perform extraordinary miracles that will convince the world of his divine calling?


like NH he could perform miracles and extraordinary things but he doesn't HAVE to.

It's like a rabbi i learned w/ said...the moshiach CAN be 6' 10" but he doesn't HAVE to be...it just means that if he is he can play b-ball in his free time.
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:00 PM
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shalom hi, Jewscout been a few, Please tell me where in Torah is this found? Cause you see I do not add the TALMUD as scripture nor the writings of the rabbi. IN fact I don't find a single one named in the scripture, my mistake yes I do find them all over the scripture. The true prophets spoke about them all the time in fact many where killed by what would be called a rabbi
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:10 AM
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Cause you see I do not add the TALMUD as scripture nor the writings of the rabbi.

Do you celebrate Chanukah? Do you say kaddish?

IN fact I don't find a single one named in the scripture, my mistake yes I do find them all over the scripture. The true prophets spoke about them all the time in fact many where killed by what would be called a rabbi

It is not a requirement that the candidate for Moshiach would work miracles. Why? Because anyone can do that. Pharo's court sorcerers were able to duplicate every act Moshe Rabbeinu performed. Jesus performed many miracles also but he wasn't the Moshiach.
The late Rebbe Schneerson also performed many miracles but he wasn't Moshiach. The key is Devarim 13 where Hashem tells the Jews if someone comes along and performs miracles and says something will happen and it does happen, then that prophet is from Me. If it doesn't come true then he is a fake and is to be killed. Miracles are secondary because it is Hashem working through them. Prophecy is the test.
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It is not a requirement that the candidate for Moshiach would work miracles. Why? Because anyone can do that. Pharo's court sorcerers were able to duplicate every act Moshe Rabbeinu performed. Jesus performed many miracles also but he wasn't the Moshiach.
The late Rebbe Schneerson also performed many miracles but he wasn't Moshiach.
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The key is Devarim 13 where Hashem tells the Jews if someone comes along and performs miracles and says something will happen and it does happen, then that prophet is from Me. If it doesn't come true then he is a fake and is to be killed. Miracles are secondary because it is Hashem working through them. Prophecy is the test.
Please don't presume to speak for Judaism. Jews are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves.
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Please don't presume to speak for Judaism. Jews are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves.
I never claimed to be a spokesman for Judaism. I was simply relating what the Torah teaches. Take it up with the Rambam.

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Jesus performed many miracles also but he wasn't the Moshiach. The late Rebbe Schneerson also performed many miracles but he wasn't Moshiach.
I never claimed to be a spokesman for Judaism. I was simply relating what the Torah teaches. Take it up with the Rambam.
I've read the Torah. I've read Maimonides.
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