Ashkenazic and Sephardic Judaism (Messiah, Torah, tradition, beliefs, faith)

[kitkat2210]

What are the differences between Ashkenazic and Sephardic beliefs in the Messiah?

[jewscout]

none that i am aware of.
the differences between the 2 groups is mostly limited to customs and pronouncing hebrew
is it Shabbas or Shabbot?

[kitkat2210]

Iv discovered that but according to my lecturer Ashkenazi Jews have largely dispensed with the idea that the messiah will be a human (Orthodox Jews excluded, of course), but Sephardi Jews are
more inclined to follow the traditional view but I cant find anything on views about the Messiah anywhere.

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by kitkat2210

Iv discovered that but according to my lecturer Ashkenazi Jews have largely dispensed with the idea that the messiah will be a human (Orthodox Jews excluded, of course), but Sephardi Jews are
more inclined to follow the traditional view but I cant find anything on views about the Messiah anywhere.

what do you mean orthodox jews excluded?
i don't know of any jew who would believes the Moshiach ben David to be anything other than a mortal king who will rule, live and die like everyone else, this includes the Orthodox.

[jewscout]

P.S. the Rambam, who created the 13 principles of Jewish faith based on the written and oral torah of which the concept of a mortal human Moshiach, was himself a sephardi

[kitkat2210]

Thankyou for your reply,I think my lecturer meant that orthodox Ashkenazi were excluded from that statement - that they still uphold the messiah will be human in line with the Sephardi beliefs. I am trying to find out if and how Ashkenazi beliefs differ? - If they (apart from orthodox Ash.)are different from Sephardi then how? do they consider the Messiah in a more supernatural way?

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by kitkat2210

Thankyou for your reply,I think my lecturer meant that orthodox Ashkenazi were excluded from that statement - that they still uphold the messiah will be human in line with the Sephardi beliefs. I am trying to find out if and how Ashkenazi beliefs differ? - If they (apart from orthodox Ash.)are different from Sephardi then how? do they consider the Messiah in a more supernatural way?

i am unaware of any movement in Judaism that believes the Messiah will have G-d like powers. He will do mighty things and be a great leader, but having superpowers isn't necessarily part of the job description.

[Jayhawker Soule]

The differences are secondary: things such as pronunciation, the naming of children, the foods one is allowed to eat over Pesach, etc. Also, I know of nothing comparable to the Reform or Reconstructioinist movement withing Sephardic Judaism.

[jewscout]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker Soule

The differences are secondary: things such as pronunciation, the naming of children, the foods one is allowed to eat over Pesach, etc. Also, I know of nothing comparable to the Reform or Reconstructioinist movement withing Sephardic Judaism.

wow, i didn't know that Jay! thanks!
(seriously, i didn't )

[Avi]

Prayer services are also conducted differently between Ashkenaz and Sephard communities, hence the existence of two different siddurs.