Michael (Jesus Christ, Earth, Messiah, Jehovah, creation)

[may]

The Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth.

(Mi´cha·el) Means [Who Is Like God?]

The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. so,it is reasonable to conclude that Jehovah God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels

(Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31)

Paul made mention of "the Lord Jesus" and "his powerful angels." (2 Thessalonians 1:7) and peter said

He is at God’s right hand, for he went his way to heaven; and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him 1 peter 3;22

there is one scripture that links Jesus with the office of archangel.

because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first...1 thessalonians 4;16

In this scripture Jesus is described as having assumed his power as God’s Messianic King. Yet, he speaks with "an archangel’s voice." Note, too, that he has the power to raise the dead

While on earth as a human, Jesus performed several resurrections.

Jesus "cried out with a loud voice: ‘Lazarus, come on out!’" (John 11:43)

"Young man, I say to you, Get up!" (Luke 7:14, 15)

After his own resurrection, Jesus was raised to a "superior position" in heaven as a spirit creature. (Philippians 2:9)

No longer a human, he has the voice of an archangel

Yes, there are other angelic creatures of high rank, such as seraphs and cherubs. (Genesis 3:24; Isaiah 6:2) Yet, the Scriptures point to the resurrected Jesus Christ as the chief of all angels—Michael the archangel.

The Bible states that "Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels." (Revelation 12:7)

Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions "the Lord Jesus" and "his powerful angels." (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and "his angels" and Jesus and "his angels." (Matthew 13:41) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role

[James the Persian]

I find all this extremely tenuous to say the least. Just on the last point, though, if Christ is God (which I know you dispute) then why can't you talk of both His angels and St. Michael's angels? There's absolutely no justification for your interpretation that this would mean that there were two groups of angels. It would be perfectly correct to refer to any regiment in the British army as the King's (or Queen's) regiment, but it would also be perfectly correct to refer to a particular regiment as belonging to its direct rather than overall commander. An example would be the existence of the Duke of Wellington's regiment formed in the Napoleonic wars. It was the King's because he was supreme commander and all of the army was his but it was the Duke of Wellington's because he was the direct commander of that regiment. This is far from the only regiment referred to as such. I see no difference between this concept and the idea that Christ has His angels (all of them including St. Michael) and St. Michael has angels as commander of he angelic host. Your logic only makes sense if you assume that Christ is an archangel rather than above them but this is an invalid assumption to make when you are trying to conclude that Christ is an archangel. The logic is circular.

James

[may]

Back in the early 1800’s, Bible scholar Joseph Benson stated that the description of Michael as found in the Bible "manifestly points out the Messiah." Nineteenth-century Lutheran E. W. Hengstenberg agreed that "Michael is no other than Christ." Similarly, theologian J. P. Lange, when commenting on Revelation 12:7, wrote: "We take it that Michael . . . is, from the outset, Christ in warlike array against Satan." Does the Bible support this identification? Yes, it does

Since Michael is called an archangel, some feel that identifying him as Jesus detracts in some way from Jesus’ dignity or rank. (Jude 9) Yet, the evidence for such an identification led the above-mentioned scholars of Christendom to recognize Michael as Jesus despite the fact that they presumably believed in the Trinity

[jeffrey]

So Michel is Christ! I knew you were special! Now you know why all your muscles ache all the time! Them beatings the Romans gave you!

[sushannah]

Originally Posted by may

Back in the early 1800’s, Bible scholar Joseph Benson stated that the description of Michael as found in the Bible "manifestly points out the Messiah." Nineteenth-century Lutheran E. W. Hengstenberg agreed that "Michael is no other than Christ." Similarly, theologian J. P. Lange, when commenting on Revelation 12:7, wrote: "We take it that Michael . . . is, from the outset, Christ in warlike array against Satan." Does the Bible support this identification? Yes, it does

Since Michael is called an archangel, some feel that identifying him as Jesus detracts in some way from Jesus’ dignity or rank. (Jude 9) Yet, the evidence for such an identification led the above-mentioned scholars of Christendom to recognize Michael as Jesus despite the fact that they presumably believed in the Trinity

I know you will agree that the Messiah is not G-d, he is also not an angel. He is a Human.

[may]

Originally Posted by sushannah

I know you will agree that the Messiah is not G-d, he is also not an angel. He is a Human.

he is also Gods first-born , yes he was a man but now at this point in time he is a mighty warrior king in the heavens
Jesus, in his prehuman existence, was "the first-born of all creation." (Colossians 1:15, NJB) He was "the beginning of God’s creation." (Revelation 3:14, RS, Catholic edition).

1 Pet. 3:18, RS: "Christ also died for sins once for all, . . . being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit ["in the spirit," NE, AT, JB, Dy].

[Aqualung]

The angels were made subject to him. He is greater than the angel. Meaning, therefore, that he is not an angel. He's not "the greatest of the angels" but "greater than the angels." Michael does not equal Jesus. Jehovah, however, does.

[may]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

The angels were made subject to him. He is greater than the angel. Meaning, therefore, that he is not an angel. He's not "the greatest of the angels" but "greater than the angels." Michael does not equal Jesus. Jehovah, however, does.

yes thats right the angels are subject to him

We are introduced to the one named Michael in the book of Daniel. There an angel of God refers to him in these words: "But the prince of the royal realm of Persia was standing in opposition to me for twenty-one days, and, look! Michael, one of the foremost princes, came to help me . . . And now I shall go back to fight with the prince of Persia. When I am going forth, look! also the prince of Greece is coming. However, I shall tell you the things noted down in the writing of truth, and there is no one holding strongly with me in these things but Michael, the prince of you people."—Daniel 10:13, 20, 21.

Here we have a fascinating glimpse of the spirit realm. We see that spirit creatures—good and bad—are very much involved in world affairs. There was a spirit "prince of the royal realm of Persia," opposing the activities of God’s angel. After Persia there would be a "prince of Greece," promoting the interests of that world power. Among these spirit creatures, Michael was one of "the foremost princes." Which nation did he guide and protect? Clearly, it was Daniel’s people, the Jews.

[Aqualung]

But micheal, the archangel is still an angel. Christ is better than the angels, including Michael. Christ is not an angel. Christ is not even and archangel. He's not michael.

[dawny0826]

Jesus Christ and Michael are NOT one in the same.

Michael is the most esteemed angel. The name Michael means "he who is like God". But that doesn't make him CHRIST.