Conspiracy theory against Islam

[Jaiket]

Hi Maro, I'm curious about something you posted:

Originally Posted by TashaN

*The West is trying to destroy Islam, spoil the youth and women*

Taken from the thread Dangerous Propaganda.

For which reasons do people believe The West is trying to destroy Islam?

How do Muslims play into this?

This is open to others, of course, but I stuck it in the Islam section because I am most interested in the views of Muslims on the matter.

[itar]

Hello jaiket,i m sure if you read about ISLAM you will understand why the west is trying to destroy it. Nowadays we are Muslims just because our fathers were Muslims. The most of us don t apply what god and his prophet peace be upon him told us to do. Islam is not a religion of praying, fasting and giving charity .it also organizes the life of the humanity in economics politics...And if we (Muslims) apply it we ll be stronger, more rich, cultured and developed economically. The west is trying to make of us" modern Muslims ",to reduce the hours of studying Islam in school ,to attract children using ads. America didn't colonized Iraq to steal petrol but also to kill the most cultured Muslim society (Iraq is our capital of culture and the most of scientists were born there and there was the biggest libraries and ancient Islamic books)
The west is afraid of us because he knows that our ancestors who were applying Islam were very united and invented lot of important inventions. Now we are just consumers.
And unfortunately Muslims don t react we are afraid that America gets angry. Who feeds us?-the west. Who gives us medicines cars??? -the west.
I hope you understand my message!!

[Hyperborean]

To put it simply, there have been people that work for the sake of Shaaitan and people who work for the sake of Allah (SWT).

Already by the 1960's, there were liberal fundamentalist groups who worked for the destruction of Christianity and the breakdown of the Christian-culture of that time. However, they were never satisfied with that. So long as Islam remained a bastion of Traditional thought, they still wished to destroy it. Today, the neo-cons in AmeriKwa are carrying out the work of the Trotskyists who emerged before them and carrying out an onslaught against Islam for that very reason.

[.lava]

Originally Posted by itar

America didn't colonized Iraq to steal petrol but also to kill the most cultured Muslim society (Iraq is our capital of culture and the most of scientists were born there and there was the biggest libraries and ancient Islamic books)

that's terrible fact of war in Iraq. many professors, university teachers and well educated people got killed. when a bomb goes off we hear 30-40 people die but we don't know who they are. there is usually one target among dozens of dead. this is how it's covered. i red an article about this issue specially. can't recall number of loss that who's educated and teaching. i guess it was around 300-500. very sad. they are eliminating valuable people of society. not to mention there are many more who's trying to escape from Iraq to save their lives. such an ugly truth. thank you for bringing this up dear itar



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[tomspug]

What proof at all can you give (proof as in examples of instances or events) that shows any attempt on the part of the United States to discourage or interrupt the Islamic culture and traditions of the Iraqi people? Exactly how many educated people have died? Can you give a number? Do you have any evidence at all for any of your claims?

[.lava]

Originally Posted by tomspug

What proof at all can you give (proof as in examples of instances or events) that shows any attempt on the part of the United States to discourage or interrupt the Islamic culture and traditions of the Iraqi people? Exactly how many educated people have died? Can you give a number? Do you have any evidence at all for any of your claims?

500 scientists got killed. because they did not cooperate with foreign powers.

MOSSAD 500 Iraklı Bilimadamını Öldürdü! | netpano.com - Haber sitesi



300 -very- valuable books were transfered to Washington and Israel:

Irak’tan 300 DeÄŸerli Kitap Ä°srail’de | netpano.com - Haber sitesi

i know these are not in English. i just hope you'd know (why) you don't need to ask why.




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[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by TashaN

*The West is trying to destroy Islam, spoil the youth and women*

If one accepts the quote AS written, it doesn't sound like The Truth actually believes there is a conspiracy, rather it sounds like he is saying that this is in fact just "dangerous propaganda". I would be inclined to agree with that reading. It would be helpful for TashaN (The Truth) to clarify what he was thinking.)

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

If one accepts the quote AS written, it doesn't sound like The Truth actually believes there is a conspiracy, rather it sounds like he is saying that this is in fact just "dangerous propaganda". I would be inclined to agree with that reading. It would be helpful for TashaN (The Truth) to clarify what he was thinking.)

Until now i don't understand why you are obsessed with my previous name "The Truth" so much. I'm really curious to know the reason for that.

I believe it's a "dangerous propaganda" as was expressed in my original post in that thread, and i believe, Jaiket understood that well, but he wanted to know why did sister maro believed otherwise.

[.lava]

Originally Posted by Jaiket

How do Muslims play into this?

let me try to give an example, dear Jaiket;

Islam in Qur'an clarifies both man and woman are individuals and they both have free wills. before God they are equal. they both have rights. however, there are some traditional Muslim people who sees woman as an object. they don't want them to be educated. because they believe if she was educated she would lose herself and have power. so they refuse to let their daughters go school. on the other hand, there are Muslims who think this is wrong but they don't know their religion either. they think this is what religion requires. so they tend to become Western and abandone Islam. Western countries also support this 'educated' Muslims. just because they don't know Islam, they condemn religion for acts of ignorant people. i hope this gives an idea.



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