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Old 10-25-2007, 08:11 PM
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FROM MARXISM TO ISLAM:
THE PHILOSOPHICAL ITINERARY
OF ROGER GARAUDY


Yahde 'llahu li-nuri-hi man yasha, "Allah guides to his light whomsoever he wills"(Qur'an 24:35). At the level of secondary causes, however, there are many reasons why a Western intellectual might embrace Islam. In the case of the French Marxist philosopher Roger Garaudy, who was born in 1914 and converted in 1982 when he was 68 years old, the key factors were arguably his conviction that Western society is based on a false understanding of man, and his own life-long quest for transcendence. That is the view which will be taken in the present paper. Nevertheless, other factors undoubtedly played a part. Some of them will be reviewed briefly by way of introduction.

the whole article : FROM MARXISM TO ISLAM - ROGER GARAUDY.

Works :

Garaudy has written over 20 books, including:
  • Do we need God? (Avons-nous besoin de Dieu?)
  • God is dead (Dieu est mort)
  • The grandeur and decadences of Islam
  • Islam and integrism
  • Call to the living
  • Who do you say that I am?
  • Towards a war of religion
  • Founding Myths of Modern Israel (also translated as Founding myths of the Israeli policy and Mythical foundations of Israeli policy)
  • Western Terrorism (Le Terrorisme Occidental
Roger Garaudy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:13 PM
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Boy, you are really scraping the bottom of the intellectual barrel on this one Maro.

From the Wikipedia link you provided:

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During World War II, Garaudy was imprisoned in Djelfa, Algeria, as a prisoner of war of Vichy France; he was a member of the French Communist Party who tried to reconcile Marxism with Roman Catholicism in the 1970s, and then abandoned both doctrines in favour of Sunni Islam when he became Muslim in 1982, taking his new name, Ragaa. He currently lives in Spain.

In May 1997, Garaudy was commissioned to write a series of articles for an Arabic weekly published in London by the BBC Arabic Service. In 1998, a French court found him guilty of Holocaust denial and racial defamation, fining him FF 120,000 ($40,000) for his 1995 book Mythes fondateurs de la politique israélienne (Founding Myths of Israeli Politics). Endorsing the views of French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson, the book declared that during the Holocaust, Jews were not killed in gas chambers. [1] The book was quickly translated into Arabic and Persian, and a Sudanese lawyer, Faruk M. Abu Eissa, assembled a five-man legal team to support Garaudy at his trial in Paris. The Iranian government paid some of Garaudy's fine.
In 2002 Garaudy received the "Al-Gaddafi International Prize for Human Rights" from Libyan dictator Muammar al-Gaddafi.
You don't find it troubling that a rabid Communist "fruit loop" found Islam a suitable bedfellow for his outlandish political ideals? If I were a Muslim, I wouldn't be drawing attention to this fellow.
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:34 AM
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Uhhh.

I'd like to think he gained some sense when he converted to Islam, but that's sadly not the case. Any particular reason you called attention to him, maro?
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:36 AM
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Boy, you are really scraping the bottom of the intellectual barrel on this one Maro.

From the Wikipedia link you provided:



You don't find it troubling that a rabid Communist "fruit loop" found Islam a suitable bedfellow for his outlandish political ideals? If I were a Muslim, I wouldn't be drawing attention to this fellow.
I was looking through the book, Mythes fondateurs de la politique israélienne, and I had a hard time finding the anti Semitic part… would you be kind enough to highlight the part where he denies that Jews were killed by Nazis…?

The Founding Myths of Israeli Politics, Introduction

From what I took from it… it seems like he is anti-Zionist…
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i wonder why denying the holocaust is considered a tremendous guilt , while denying God and his prophets is simply "personal freedom" ?! we haven't seen both, huh ?

Anyway , every person is free to believe whatever he likes ,and deny whatever he likes

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You don't find it troubling that a rabid Communist "fruit loop" found Islam a suitable bedfellow for his outlandish political ideals? If I were a Muslim, I wouldn't be drawing attention to this fellow.
by converting to Islam , he abandoned communism as Islam is not in harmony with it .

Please ,if u wanna go on with the argument about Garaudy's political ideals, start your own thread.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:23 AM
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Yusuf Estes




Yusuf Estes, PhD. (born 1944), is an American convert to Islam and Chairman of "the Muslim Foundation International", which is an Islamic Promotional and Missionary Organization dedicated to spreading the message of al-Islam according to the Quran, Sunnah.[1] He was brought up in a Protestant Christian family; members of the Disciples of Christ. Yusuf Estes was known then as "Skip Estes".

Yusuf Estes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Here he is, telling his story :

YouTube - Yusuf Estes talks about journey to Islam
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Thanks for sharing, Maro!
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i wonder why denying the holocaust is considered a tremendous guilt , while denying God and his prophets is simply "personal freedom" ?! we haven't seen both, huh ?
Well said.
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i wonder why denying the holocaust is considered a tremendous guilt
Do you deny the holocaust?
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There's a little more concrete proof of the horrors of the Holocaust than of G-d.

To deny something like the Holocaust makes you look like a nutcase. I can't say I'm proud to have such people in the ummah.
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