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[EiNsTeiN]

French court found him guilty of Holocaust denial and racial defamation

My God!....Thats so ridiculous!!

Guilty for denying a historical event?...thats I never heard before..

Ok guys....I personally deny WW2....It didnt occure, and that was all illusions...ok?
Please send me to the court!..

(Thats soooo silly!)

[mcteethinator]

Originally Posted by maro

i wonder why denying the holocaust is considered a tremendous guilt , while denying God and his prophets is simply "personal freedom" ?! we haven't seen both, huh ?

Are you serious?

[EiNsTeiN]

It's not an issue whether the Holocaust is a fact or not...

The issue is why sending people to courts cuz they deny it???.....thats really weird and doesnt make any sense

[Peace]

Originally Posted by not4me

Well said.

I second that

Peace

[mcteethinator]

I don't think Muslims should be defending a man who denies the Holocaust. It makes us look more bad then we already do look at the moment.

[jamaesi]

You know, I wonder how people get such warped views on Islam, think that Muslims hate Jews, think that Islam brainwashes people, and that there is no emphasis on learning or compassion in Islam...

Now I know.


I was thinking about adding something on why there are holocaust denial laws, but I see how well logic goes over here, so I suppose I won't waste my time.

[Storm]

Originally Posted by jamaesi

You know, I wonder how people get such warped views on Islam, think that Muslims hate Jews, think that Islam brainwashes people, and that there is no emphasis on learning or compassion in Islam...

Now I know.

[not4me]

Originally Posted by mcteethinator

I don't think Muslims should be defending a man who denies the Holocaust. It makes us look more bad then we already do look at the moment.

1- I don't think it's about defending or not defending. If he thought there were some lies about it, this doesn't make him a criminal.
2- Maro made an analogy between a Holocaust denier and a God and the prophets denier (the guilt of the latter is much greater than the former from a Muslim point of view). And this doesn't mean denying the Holocaust but if some one did, isn't this also a form of freedom of thinking and expression?
3- As long as we are Muslims who follow the teachings of the Qur'an (not the western values and standards) then we will always be looked bad and the more we stick to the Qur'an, the more we will be looked as bad.

[EiNsTeiN]

Originally Posted by jamaesi

You know, I wonder how people get such warped views on Islam, think that Muslims hate Jews, think that Islam brainwashes people, and that there is no emphasis on learning or compassion in Islam...

Now I know.


I was thinking about adding something on why there are holocaust denial laws, but I see how well logic goes over here, so I suppose I won't waste my time.

Dont get me started please....First of all, you changed the topic, and enlarged an issue which isn't our main concern here!!

Whether someone denys the Haulocost or not doesnt give any right to start holocaust denial laws...thats so silly!!

I wanna go and tell that court :"He denies the holocausr?....So what??"
Honestly...That doesnt make any sense....And I refuse to spend my entire life, and watch the upcoming generations all crying for an event (which is BTW a very normal one compared to many other miserys worldwide) which occured 70 years ago!!

My God, thats stupid!....Ok we feel sorry for the jews....so what now?....does denying or accepting the holocause change any of it?....does it make them look better?

Please guys....stop the silly talk and get back to topic