Iraq Wall (grace, America, grace, Adam, religion)

[Laila]

The U.S. military are constructing a wall in Iraq to separate the sunni muslims from the shia muslims. What a disgrace separating brother from brother and sister from sister. Shouldn't the U.S. be stopped?
They illegally invaded Iraq and now they are causing a physical barrier of segregation between the sects; the old divide and rule law in action.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6577529.stm

What are your thoughts?

[fullyveiled muslimah]

The whole thing is bogus as you pointed out. They invaded Iraq illegaly and are now going on to seperate them creating even more angst between them. Personally i think they have hyped up the aggression between muslims there to be more than what it is. I am sure there is a schism among them as it has been for some time now, but I refuse to believe that only now since the US has been involved have they decided to ruthlessly kill one another. Those muslims have been living in that country for a long time, and if they were wiping each other out like this the whole time, there wouldn't be anyone left. Suffice it to say though that I highly doubt much of what is broadcast on mainstream media.

[Shadow Wolf]

In all honesty, it reminded me of the Berlin Wall. It's a shame that America is now propagating what it fought against not too long ago.

What are some of the major differences between the Sunni and Shia that would cause anyone to think such a separation is necessary? I know the media claims one group wants to reform Iraq, while the other is completly against the reforms, but that is all I know.

[lombas]

Originally Posted by fullyveiled muslimah

invaded Iraq illegaly

Any war or invasion is illegal unless (the regimes of) both countries approve it and then still it isn't legitimate.

[lombas]

Originally Posted by Luke Wolf

What are some of the major differences between the Sunni and Shia that would cause anyone to think such a separation is necessary?

Some would say: the bombs they are throwing at each other, but that would be a generalization of facts.

Still, some truth in it. The Berlin Wall wanted to keep people in. Normal walls are meant for people to stay out. The "Iraq Wall" would be build to keep people out. Therefore, it would serve the normal function of a wall.

Nevertheless, it would be yet another foreign intervention.

[The Seeker]

The PM of Iraq has ordered a stop to this wall. Did we decide to build this wall on our own or was the PM notified in advance?

[fullyveiled muslimah]

It's a thread somewhere around here dealing with the shia/sunni issue. It's too long to go into right now, or it could be that I'm too lazy to go into it. Anywho, I don't claim to know the details either. Anything we hear over here is fifth hand news anyway, so we'd have to pick through to see what makes sense and what doesn't. It just seems odd to me that there is suddenly that much killing and strife among them now. I think people over there pretty much collectively wanted Sadam gone, so I don't see his toppling as a reason for escalated fighting. Moreover I have no doubt that they live more harmoniously than what's being portrayed to us, simply because they have been occupying the same space for a long while. Certainly there are disagreements stemming from various political and religious differences, so I'm not gonna try to paint a picture of roses either. There's something happening, but I just can't fathom it being so bad that a wall has gotta go up. To me its just silly and sad.

I would wager it to be more a struggle to gain political power between political enemies, to fill the void rather than any real concern over religion. I doubt that the common people are concerned with that seeing as how they are probably preoccupied with making some kind of living, and picking up the pieces of their lives what with being bombed and all.

[des]

It's one of the typical Bush cronies activities. Honestly they have made so many mistakes in Iraq (aside from the initial invasion) that Iraq will take decades to get over it. They make a unilateral (apparently) decision, without any (or enough) input from the citizens of Iraq and then are surprised, apparently, because of protests.


--des

[TashaN]

Many of the bombing overthere were planned by the american army. There is one incident when they saw american soldeirs wearing Iraqi civilian clothes, and trying to do some suspicious things, then when people discovered them, they escaped.