Osama Bin Laden: Mujahid vs Criminal

[FlyingTeaPot]

Originally Posted by Sahar

Well, what I understood that the order came to assassinate him, not to capture him alive.

I think Obama asked to have him captured alive. But the circumstances were such that they couldn't do that. Remember, the US captured both KSM and Saddam Hussein alive.

[Gharib]

Originally Posted by FlyingTeaPot

I think Obama asked to have him captured alive. But the circumstances were such that they couldn't do that. Remember, the US captured both KSM and Saddam Hussein alive.

how could the circumstances be such that he must be killed while being unarmed?

and not only that but they say that they don't want to release any pictures or footage because muslims might feel strongly about such things and might react violently, that is a nice excuse to cover up the US conspiracy even further. and on top of that he was dumped at sea, does this story have one realistic aspect about it or is it a 5 year old child who comes up with these things?

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by eselam

i have a few questions which i would like everyone here to answer:

1. what was Osama during the soviet war?

A hero, an ally to the international community and the US in specific.

2. does most of what muslims hear about Osama come form the Kaffirs?

Of course not.

3. is there any evidence of the news of Osama saying that he was responsible of the twin towers that reached the public without the US being an intermediate between such evidence and us?

He took the credit for it then later declared that his followers did it and that he was proud of them. So, it doesn't matter whether there was a conspiracy involved or not.

4. has Osama ever claimed responsibility of what is attributed to him about killing innocent people or blowing up mosques or killing shias or killing sunnis?

His followers did it, and he claimed so many times that the world has split into two, obviously we were either with him or against him.

5. i need to think of a few more questions.

Take your time.

[TashaN]

Originally Posted by FlyingTeaPot

I think Obama asked to have him captured alive. But the circumstances were such that they couldn't do that.

Sorry, you are wrong. let me prove it to you somewhere else because this is the Islam DIR and we are discussing here an islamic issue.

You are more than welcome to join me here:
Assassination! right or wrong?


Thanks.

[Sahar]

Do any of you believe that Ossama had a link to the 9/11 events?

[Sahar]

Following the U.S. special forces operation that captured and killed Bin Laden on Sunday, there has been criticism from religious and political leaders in the UK and Europe, while the UN has also said it wants to investigate the legality of the killing.
But in the Muslim world Bin Laden remains a hero of jihad for many and the strength of feeling was palpable today in Pakistan, the regular Friday prayers were accompanied by widespread anti-American protests.
Osama Bin Laden death revenge: Muslim fury erupts at Friday prayers

Egypt Salafists honor bin Laden with death prayer | Reuters

[Peace]

Originally Posted by Sahar

Do any of you believe that Ossama had a link to the 9/11 events?

I cannot accuse him and say yes because we have no proof whatever that he is behind that. Actually, I cannot even say whether Ossama was good or bad because too simply I cannot trust the western media. If Ossama was truly behind the 9/11 and all the killings of civilians here and there... so I would say that he committed a big and major sin, that of killing the souls that God forbids. However, if the man was innocent from all those accusations, then may Allah's mercy be upon his soul.
The contradicting stories that the American government came up with, the quick time span of killing and burial in the sea, no photos of his corpse, no attempt for bringing him alive for trial... all these make me wonder about the reality of Ossama. What was he really? A normal simple man, an ex Mujahid againt the Soviet and full stop. Or, his personality was developed and transformed from being a Mujahid to becoming a terrorist??! Was Ossama what the media showed us to be, or was that bad image just created for some evil hidden intentions?
We cannot judge the man, based on the lack of evidence.
We thank God that there is a day of Judgement where all the hidden facts, that are hidden in this life, will then be shown to us as crystal clear. Then and only then we will know the truth, for Allah is Just!

[Sahar]

Good post, Peace.

[Bismillah]

I think Osama was guilty of the crimes he was accused of. I also think that it is very obvious the U.S gov. is hiding something, using excuses such as "Islamic burial rites" and the fact that no country would take him is a smokescreen from hiding what he exactly looked like. Furthermore the gov has refused to release photographs of his corpse.

I think that not only was he captured alive, but he was tortured to extract any further information he knew before being dumped into the sea. Of course if he was tortured it wouldn't look good that his corpse bore those signs of punishment so it disappeared...