Does being anti-Israel mean you're anti-semitic? (Moses, followers, prophet, worship)

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by mcteethinator

I personally do not think so, however, a lot of people think differently

A lot of people? Who, for example? On the other hand, ...

Palestinian Anti-Semitism

Your rhetorical efforts to prettify Arab anti-judaism and anti-zionism are at best underwhelming. At worst it reflects a deceitful denial of the active and pervasive use of antisemitism in the propaganda war against Israel. One can be opposed to Zionism for any number of reasons - including gross and willful ignorance - but I am far more curious about whether you acknowledge and oppose the persistent antisemitic drivel that permeates Arab anti-zionist rhetoric and education.

[jamaesi]

I could have an image of anti-Arab graffiti in Palestine in this post, but what's the point?

[mcteethinator]

Originally Posted by Jay

A lot of people? Who, for example?

The Anti-Defamation League.

Originally Posted by Jay

On the other hand, ...

Palestinian Anti-Semitism

Wow, what a pathetic attempt to demonize all Palestinians. Let's take a look at this picture.



FYI, that says "Death to the Arabs". That doesn't mean anything, and to me that picture does not implicate all Israelis as being Anti-Arab bigots. However, if I applied your rather weak logic, I could say all Jews were anti-Arab racist bigots and that justifies terrorist attacks against them, as you seem to be implying that all Palestinians are anti-semitic racist bigots so that justifies stealing the land they and their parents and their parent's parents (etc) had been living on with no compensation in most cases.

Originally Posted by Jay

Your rhetorical efforts to prettify Arab anti-judaism and anti-zionism are at best underwhelming. At worst it reflects a deceitful denial of the active and pervasive use of antisemitism in the propaganda war against Israel. One can be opposed to Zionism for any number of reasons - including gross and willful ignorance - but I am far more curious about whether you acknowledge and oppose the persistent antisemitic drivel that permeates Arab anti-zionist rhetoric and education.

Let me spin that around.

Your rhetorical efforts to prettify Native American anti-european and anti-colonialism are at best underwhelming. At worst it reflects a deceitful denial of the active and pervasive use of anti-european racism in the propaganda war against United States. One can be opposed to Colonialism for any number of reasons - including gross and willful ignorance - but I am far more curious about whether you acknowledge and oppose the persistent racist drivel that permeates Native American anti-colonialist rhetoric and education.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by jamaesi

I could have an image of anti-Arab graffiti in Palestine in this post, but what's the point?

The point is that in one case it's an aberration that's condemned and in the other it's a policy that's promoted - and the more important point is your eagerness to whitewash this distinction. Do you truly maintain that children's textbooks in Gaza compare favorably with those in Jerusalem?

[Jayhawker Soule]

Originally Posted by mcteethinator

Wow, what a pathetic attempt to demonize all Palestinians.

It was no such thing. I remain curious about whether you acknowledge and oppose the persistent antisemitic drivel that permeates Arab anti-zionist rhetoric and education.

[mcteethinator]

Originally Posted by Jay

The point is that in one case it's an aberration that's condemned and in the other it's a policy that's promoted - and the more important point is your eagerness to whitewash this distinction. Do you truly maintain that children's textbooks in Gaza compare favorably with those in Jerusalem?

No we do not. My point is, that the anti-Arab grafitti says nothing more then the anti-Jewish graffiti (Or maybe it says just as much?). If anything, I'd say you're trying to whitewash Jewish anti-Arabism. How exactly am I and jamaesi whitewashing Arabic anti-semitism when I say not agreeing with every policy Israel makes isn't anti-semitism? I'm still trying to see your point here.

Originally Posted by Jay

It was no such thing. I remain curious about whether you acknowledge and oppose the persistent antisemitic drivel that permeates Arab anti-zionist rhetoric and education.

I do acknowledge and oppose all types of racism. That's why I oppose Zionism. I oppose suicide bombers in Israeli cafes just as much as I oppose Israelis bulldozing innocent Palestinian houses. However, noone seems to notice the latter, or at least barely reports it. Since Palestinian blood isn't as thick as Jewish blood.

But seriously, let's see a hypothetical situation here.

If you were a Palestinian, how would you feel about Israelis and Jews? Answer honestly now!

[Terrywoodenpic]

I do not see this as anti-Semitism....
The Palestinians would hate the Israelis, what ever religion they followed.
It is what is and has been done to them, that causes the hate.

Do I hate Jews?... no.
do I distrust the Israeli government? certainly.
Do I support Terrorists? no
Do I support Israeli attacks on Palestinians? no
Do I understand the Palestinians attacks on Israel? yes
Do I support them ? no
Do I understand the Israeli suppression of the Palestinians? no

Might Israelis think I was anti Semitic? probably.
Will it change my understanding? no.

[mcteethinator]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

The Palestinians would hate the Israelis, what ever religion they followed.
It is what is and has been done to them, that causes the hate.