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Old 09-23-2006, 11:45 PM
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Don't get me started on Bush. I've been furious with him ever since reading about his efforts to sanction torture this week. I have not been this upset with a politician in decades.

Sunstone about this torture thing? would you be so kind as to take a look at this thread so as not to side track this one

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Old 09-24-2006, 05:54 AM
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I cant say i am surprised it was and is full of alquieda, the US gave the same choice to the Taliban. whats the surprise here, Pakistan agreed to sort out the terrorists and the Taliban decided not to
Let's suppose it is true that Bush threatenned Pakistan after 9/11. I'm no fan of Bush, but I have very mixed feelings about doing something like that. If it were absolutely necessary to bring out the stick to get Pakistan's support after 9/11, then I am reluctantly for having done so. But I wonder whether it was absolutely necessary? Were there better ways to get Pakistan's support? Was this just some more of Bush's Cowboy Diplomancy, his tendency to use force when force is not needed and perhaps counter productive?

I imagine the trouble with gaining an ally through threats is that the ally is never really committed to you.
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I believe CIA has been using the same threat to many head of nation all the time, but indirectly so that no one can complain about that. This is the first time, a head of a nation who is supposed to be US ally came up with the 'facts' of the day. Pretty neat.
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