A question - Recovering the souls of the European peoples (ritual, moral)

[Elvendon]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

Are you suggesting there are not equal cultural variations in the usa , china and india.
Each of which has large variation in (used)language, religion and Culture.

No, because China's geography is open enough to allow the different cultures that developed to be homogenised.

There is no reason at all why these variations could not be maintained in Europe for the foreseeable future. To the benefit of everyone.

Spain has three languages, The uk at least three, Belgium two and Outside the EU the Swiss have three. Each language supports a distinct culture.

Unity has never depended on language and culture alone.

Indeed it has not... but if Europe and China are equivalent in culture, why has China been united for so long, and Europe never has?

[Terrywoodenpic]

Originally Posted by Elvendon

No, because China's geography is open enough to allow the different cultures that developed to be homogenised.



Indeed it has not... but if Europe and China are equivalent in culture, why has China been united for so long, and Europe never has?

You obviously don't know the history of war in China...Now is the longest period of peace it has ever had, that is if you discount the fighting in Tibet.
It has traditionaly use force of arms to keep the peace...
China is far from homogenised... more than half can't even speak the official language.
fortunately the written language is the same as it is pictograms.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by Elvendon

I agree that these ideals are... well, ideal, but I just am unsure as to whether they have a chance at working.

The uncertainty is only natural, since it's not really something humanity has tried before.

If there is one language all people know, there is less of an incentive to use others.

Possibly. Though I wonder if English isn't on its way to becoming a de facto universal auxiliary language anyway.

As for the others, I'm not too sure how something can be united without be centralised - perhaps you could provide and example?

The Baha'i Faith's polity is one example. There are nearly 7 million Baha'is from every culture on the globe. We're obviously unified, or we'd have broken off into sects over a century ago.

And yet it isn't centralized either. It gets even more decentralized as time goes on. What used to be done a century ago at the global level and a few decades ago at the national level, is now being done at the level of a few counties, or maybe even one county. Eventually things will be done at the level of neighborhoods.

That doesn't mean the more univeral bodies will go away, but their function is not to "rule" but to direct through encouragement and love. The more universal bodies see the bigger picture, and they transmit that down to us for direction and to consider whether what someone's doing somewhere else may work in our situation.

If there's a reason this cannot be immediately applied to the world in a political fashion, it's because humanity lacks a single focus for its attention.

Hah...maybe if the doom and gloomers of global warming are right, we'll find something to focus on, like saving our civilization and planet. You never know.

Paleontologists are quick to point out that bursts of evolution occur when there are stresses on life in an area. So who knows, maybe we'll be forced into "evolving" into the idea that we are one species.

[Booko]

Originally Posted by Terrywoodenpic

In my view the closer European countries can link and become dependent on each other the better for the world.

I agree, though I believe it would be better for a united Europe to be a loose confederation of states rather than a highly centralized "nation."

[kai]

Originally Posted by Booko

I agree, though I believe it would be better for a united Europe to be a loose confederation of states rather than a highly centralized "nation."

i must agree with your last statement we all have different cultures languages etc there is a lot to set us apart but and its a big but, we can now all work,trade etc together, i
think the conflicts between major powers in Europe are thankfully over to the betterment of us all.