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Old 12-12-2011, 04:18 PM
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Dude, this was a ugly time. Why have remorse for such violent people who did such horrific things?? They asked for it and recieved it.
Because in reality they where no different than us at different periods of time? The only difference I see is we where jealous of their Bushido code.






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No it isnt, either you know the history or you do not. its obvious you do not.
You can't know that for sure. Nothing in life is totally black and white.




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because it was such a clear message of the impending doom.

We would have fire bombed the whole country and peoples.




You need to understand in that time civilians were targets and this was a world war. there is no right or wrong, only winners. you dont let a ember smolder, you crush it out.



You had two choices to end the war, thats it. A or B

fire bomb everyone and everything resulting in 4 million deaths

or 2 atomic bombs resulting in 700,000 ish deaths
Matter of opinion, you can't know what would have happened and neither does anyone else. If we where so concerned about justice and doing what's right why did our government clear Unit 731 of all wrong doing for worthless medical data?
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Mate we may have some differences, but this is outright terrifying.
sad thing is, if they didnt surrender that was on the table.
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we have the orders that were signed and going to be carried out. Luckily for them and us, the bombs were dropped.


did you even read the link I provided?
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How the Atomic Bomb Saved 4,000,000 Lives

read it and get the answers to the history you dont know
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sad thing is, if they didnt surrender that was on the table.
But why drop the bomb on a city? This was a spectacle of magnitude wouldn't dropping it on a fleet or hell off the coastline have done the same? Why go straight to this irrecoverable act when America's own top leaders military and political questioned and question whether it was such a necessary act and whether or not Japan would have struggled otherwise?
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But why drop the bomb on a city? This was a spectacle of magnitude wouldn't dropping it on a fleet or hell off the coastline have done the same? Why go straight to this irrecoverable act when America's own top leaders military and political questioned and question whether it was such a necessary act and whether or not Japan would have struggled otherwise?

read the link above I posted and decide if you want to trade 700,000 lives for 4,000,000

250,000 of those would have been american lives. To save that many american lives id level those islands myself
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How the Atomic Bomb Saved 4,000,000 Lives

read it and get the answers to the history you dont know
Ha, ha a free republic link, oh man. The only thing I see in that article is more opinions. There are differing views out there that say the Japanese where going to surrender soon anyway. Still don't understand why they couldn't have started off targeting a couple of large military instillations.
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read the link above I posted and decide if you want to trade 700,000 lives for 4,000,000
Again mate, you are avoiding the issue that no-body has outlined why weren't military installations targeted?
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they were targeted the whole war and it would not stop them.

a message had to be sent that would stop them in their tracks
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Ha, ha a free republic link, oh man. The only thing I see in that article is more opinions. There are differing views out there that say the Japanese where going to surrender soon anyway. Still don't understand why they couldn't have started off targeting a couple of large military instillations.
come on bud, dont make me do all your research for you.

THERE enough BS

Operation Downfall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Set to begin in October 1945, Operation Olympic was intended to capture the southern third of the southernmost main Japanese island, Kyūshū, with the recently captured island of Okinawa to be used as a staging area. Later, in spring 1946, Operation Coronet was the planned invasion of the Kantō Plain, near Tokyo, on the Japanese island of Honshū. Airbases on Kyūshū captured in Operation Olympic would allow land-based air support for Operation Coronet.
Japan's geography made this invasion plan obvious to the Japanese as well; they were able to predict the Allied invasion plans accurately and thus adjust their defensive plan, Operation Ketsugō, accordingly. The Japanese planned an all-out defense of Kyūshū, with little left in reserve for any subsequent defense operations. Casualty predictions varied widely but were extremely high for both sides: depending on the degree to which Japanese civilians resisted the invasion, estimates ran into the millions for Allied casualties[1] and several times that number for Japanese casualties.
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