Aryans - Im a little confused. (beliefs, worship, religion, islam)

[Don Penguinoini]

I know, i have a murti at home, with them. Baar Jyorti Ling.

[ramesh]

Actually the aryan invasion theory is just that... a theory. Its a widely debated topic in India. It was first put forward by some prominent British anthropolgists after observing peoples in various parts of India. They found that North had more lighter traits while as you went further down South, the traits in people got darker. There is no clear cut evidence that the whole Aryan invasion ever happened. Genetic testing has shown very little difference between the peoples of India, there certainly is no Aryan race and a indegenious Dravidian race..according to genetic testing.

We don't even have all the Vedas today, much of them have been lost, so we can't use it as evidence to prove what form of God was worshipped at what period etc. The actual word Aryan is derived from the Sanskrit word Arya, meaning a noble person, has nothing to do with race.

[Aupmanyav]

Don, why should you be confused? Vedas mention many Gods, Varuna, Indra, Surya, Agni, Maruts, Vasus, Ashwins. How come we are worshiping Rama, Krishna, Durga, and Shiva, Ganesha, Kartikeya. Surely, these belong to different groups of people who later merged into one, the Aryans and the Dravidians. The aboriginal Gods were accepted as Ganas of Shiva, and the aboriginals Goddesses were merged into Durga.

Of course, there are various theories, Aryan Invasion, Aryan Migration, or Aryans being indegenous. None of the theories have been conclusively proved. Pariah, it is premature to say that the ascetic in Indus Valley civilization is Shiva because the script has not been deciphered. Shiva did not exist in the Vedas. The Vedic Rudra (the howler was a storm God, he was fair, no serpents around his neck, no ash, he held a bow and not trishula, etc.) is a completely different God and father of Maruts. The pre-Aryan hinduism was much like present day hinduism. The Vedic Gods and practices (yajnas) were relegated to the background and bhakti reigns supreme. Agni is just a carrier of our libations to the Gods, do you have any temple dedicated to Agni in India?

Zenzero, it is not only what the Vedic scholars wrote. The local legends form the basis of Mahabharata and Ramayana. Ramesh, no trace in genetic composition may also mean that Aryans came very early not just in 1,500 BC. That is why Indians do not show much differentiation. But I would not claim anything, it is all a matter of further research.

[zenzero]

Friend Aupmanyav,
The proof that you are looking for has so far been inconclusive and in our journey to be enlightened that part of hiostory is immaterial.
Reagrds to the mention of Vedic scholars I meant where those researchers who looked inwards for all solutions and never copyrighted whatever the found and left it for humanity to benefit. If they had copyrighted then Bill Gates would be puny in comparision. However, keeping to the point; The Vedas are a compliation of various scholars [meditators] who contributed under different subjects.
Even the Ramayan, Mahabharata the generation of scholars remains; and now too we are their inheritors.
Regards your enquiry on the different *gods* - please understand that since everything is god and to be alawys in meditation the researchers found it best to name everything as different gods, so that we humans do not get carried away easily by our minds and are reminded of existence as god in everything we see around us and keep praying/ meditating / be aleart / watch the mind.
They were symbolic. Not to be taken literally and get confused.
Please remember that HUMANS on earth have evolved and so makes no difference whether we are Aryans / Dravidians / etc. Mind divides and that mind has to be constantly watched / monitored.
ALl creation is ONE including ourselves.
Love & rgds

[Aupmanyav]

Zenzero, much obliged for your observations. However, that brings us to another interesting question. Is there really a creation? Or what we take as creation is only a the product of our faulty senses? The truth is the omnipresence of Brahman. We see it as a game played before our eyes. Regards.