BAPS and Sri Swaminarayan Sampraday (ritual, rejecting, Earth, incarnation)

[patl101]

''therefore you should speak badly of our saints'' - when is wrote this in my previous post i meant SHOULDNT instead of SHOULD. typo- sorry

[Don Penguinoini]

If your santos knew right, they would not touch women or have sexual relationships on them.

Lets turn this forum into a Hindu forum, and not a swaminaryan one.

[patl101]

Originally Posted by patl101

celina, if you are a devotee of swaminarayan bhagwan you would know better than to write ill os santos. maharaj said in vachnamrut that sin and repulsion towards towards god and his devotee is an irredeemable sin, and that person can never reach akshardham. therefore you should speak badly of our saints. and about your dharm, i dont think that disobeying gods command with your own reasoning makes dharm valid. it is a made-up dharm and is clearly against bhagwan's command. baps provide reasons for their beliefs, which might even sound believable to some but the basic point is that we follow the command and words of swaminaryan bhagwan, we do what he commanded us to do. baps does not, and finds reasons for its beliefs but they need to understand that we are human, and we can find and reasons and clues and justify our beliefs but we(and no one) are never qualified to use our intellect to go against the commands and order of god- thats what baps forgot and are continuing to force-shut their common sense. so you can call yourseves what you want, make as many temples as you want, but you should always remember that what you are doing is completely against gods command. and to know gods word- you should read the shikshapatri and vachnamrut- not the altere one by baps but the original one- even read the original text from the internet - if you dont trust any other sources. after readin them, then come and say what baps is doing is right.

when i wrote SHOULD previosly, i meant SHOULDNT (when refering to speaking ill of saints)- sorry , typo

[Don Penguinoini]

Um patl, u can edit you posts, next to where it says quote.

[patl101]

what to you mean by that, saints of swaminarayan faith do not even look at women

[Don Penguinoini]

Rubbish. When i went to Vadtal, my mum was standing right in front of one! He clearly looked at my mum and said Jai Swaminarayan.

[patl101]

penguino, i hope you know that throwing calumny at a saint is a very big sin- if you fear sin that is.

[Don Penguinoini]

Am i? He did what i just stated. Is this not a sin too?

Wait..Did you read my previous post.

And i do not need you to tell me what is a great sin and not.

[patl101]

you dont need me to tell you what is a great sin and not but you NEED GOD to tell you what is a great sin and not- GOD himself says this in the vachnamrut- im not saying this, this is what god himself says. if you dont believe me ask you guru, read the original scripts of what god said himsef. i am not qualified to tell not only you but anyone in this world, what is a sin and what isnt but GOD is and this is what he says. and if you dont believe me find out for yourself.

[Don Penguinoini]

You are right, but ill ask you AGAIN

Did you read my previous post???