BAPS and Sri Swaminarayan Sampraday (ritual, rejecting, Earth, incarnation)

[maybe]

Originally Posted by penguino

If there is a form, a form has a limit. Such as we do. We cant transform into a spider for example. A formless being could. god can assume any form. Some believe god has form, others dont. It still elads to the same god.

We have such a human form because of our Karma. We cannot change it to however we wish it to be as this Karma does not let us. We are also affected by Maya. God Is'nt. He is the creator of all. The Master of inumberable universes. He is the Master of Maya. He has a divine form. He is unlimited. Where does it state that if God had a form it has a limit?

When we leave our body it burns into ash then the soul according to our Karma attains a new form, hence the soul takes many bodies too. Gods eternal form as described in the Scriptures is unlimited, divine and millions of Kaamdevs put together cannot compare to it in terms of beaty. He has two arms and is Kishore Avastha. Which means young looking. The formless you talk of is Chidakash which is the bright divine light coming from this divine two armed form of His.

Those who see God as formless and yet follow dharm attain Chidakash. Those who beleive all to be Brahman attain hell. As if they believe themselves to be Brahman that means they think no sin affects them. In return they sin as much as they like. Hence they are thrown in the deepest of hells. The scriptures state so.

[Don Penguinoini]

Well, a form has a limit. If god has arms and legs, then, he is only got those arms and legs...

[Don Penguinoini]

I dont think there is an original god. I think is unseen, odourless() invisible etc. We cant see him, but its there, working its magic

[Don Penguinoini]

Im not too sure yet, i am still young, my core belief is, that gods is formless, god looks at our heart and not how and who we worship.

[michaelm]

we are part of God - there is only 'God'. The only difference is our level of awareness of this. Like sometimes im dreaming and Im totally involved and believing the dream. but sometimes I know it is a dream and i enjoy it more - I even alter the storyline sometimes by going back a bit and runningthe dream in a slightly different way.

There is the dream state (which appears real while we experience it), the awakened state (which also appears real while we experience it) and then there is realisation (Self Realisation, God Realisation, Liberation, Nirvana) when we learn to stil the mind so no imaginations occur and we can experience reality without distortion. This is what some call 'God' others 'ultimate Reality' or Supreme Consciousness.

The cuase of delusion is imagination and the cause of imagination is an uncontrolled mind. We must learn to park our minds when we dont need them in the same way we park a car after we haev finished with it.