First Hindu Temple to be Built in China by BAPS (ritual, tradition)

[Pariah]

Originally Posted by lilithu

Yes, there should be unity. But it should be national unity, not religious unity. One should be able to look at one's fellow countryman or woman and feel kinship, regardless of whether he or she is Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, or Christian, etc.

Indians are divided on more levels than religion - they are divided by state, by language, by sects of a religion - people from different states can hardly communicate with each other. How are they supposed to foster a sense of kinship?

India attempted to instituate Hindi as the national language and riots broke out in the places of regional pride - Tamil Nadu, Bengal, Maharashtra. Indians are not and cannot be united on any other level than religion unless drastic action is taken, and Indians are terrible at actually doing things without vast amount of talking and deliberating.

A "national religion" to which everyone was expected to adhere would surely be a mistake in a country as diverse as India.

As Voltaire said (paraphrasing): Where there is one religion there is tyranny. Where there are two religions there is civil war. Only with a multitude of religions is there peace.

No doubt. I'm not proposing a state religion, but Hindu unity is essentially Indian unity. Once the Hindus come together, everybody else can join the bandwagon. The secularism that currently exists in India is a facade for communal politics in the name of "secularism" - India is the third most religious country in the world - it will take a while for secularism to full exist in the country. And maybe its not a possibility.

[Pariah]

Originally Posted by lilithu

It is surprising to me that you can type the first paragraph and the second together without any awareness of irony.

Because there isn't any?
If defending yourself is separate from tolerance, than count me out of tolerance.

It's also surprising to me that you can quote Gandhi and yet hold such a deep grudge.

Quoting Gandhi has little to do with accepting his petty ideas of militant pacifism that have crippled India for 60 years.

I'll take my leave of this thread, which started out on such a positive note of mutual understanding, and let you guys have at it.

I wish you wouldn't.
I worked out the points you mentioned - discussing the issues doesn't mean you have to accept them.

[celina]

this thread is way off topic and this discussion section is about hinduism only. this thread needs to be closed.

[celina]

Originally Posted by lilithu

Yes, there should be unity. But it should be national unity, not religious unity. One should be able to look at one's fellow countryman or woman and feel kinship, regardless of whether he or she is Hindum, Muslim, Sikh, or Christian, etc.

A "national religion" to which everyone was expected to adhere would surely be a mistake in a country as diverse as India.

As Voltaire said (paraphrasing): Where there is one religion there is tyranny. Where there are two religions there is civil war. Only with a multitude of religions is there peace.

I don't agree at all. I think India needs to be 100 percent under hinduism, there is no linguinstic unity in India....The only unity that can keep India together is Hindu unity. There is plenty of diversity in Hinduism, for those that want variety. Hinduism is not one religion.

As far as multiple religions living in peace, thats a lie. Jews and pagans were persecute under christianity in Europe and still were until recently and faced discimination.

[Quagmire]

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