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Old 10-20-2007, 01:34 PM
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Because it would result in cultural unity which India is in dire need of. The lack of unity led to Islamic domination for 400 years and British domination, after Shivaji the Great returned Hindu supremacy to the subcontinent.

Both Celina and Mahesh believe a man is God, but disagree on the particulars of devotion of philosophical nuances. Have you seen the disagreements they've had? They are quite heated, despite belonging to same religion.
I think it's normal in any religion to disagree in alot of issues. Our differences are a mercy and a blessing upon us but not a curse, IMO.

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Unless there is a feeling of unity, that despite philosophical differences, we are Hindu, then India cannot progress culturally. The current economic scene is a farce in comparison to the gross amounts of communalism among people between the states, religions, castes, languages, etc.

India has not learned its lesson and its openness will be its downfall again.
Do you think India will be saved ONLY if the hindu followers became united?

What about the other religions in India, wouldn't you feel it's would be great if they united too, then all religions in India would live in peace if they wished goodness and good will for each other?
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:38 PM
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What's that?
You said that: it would equally stupid to say that Muslims have not committed the majority of the atrocities.

I believe this issue can be debated but this is not the right place for it, because each party claim that the *others* are responsible for the majority of the attacks.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:50 PM
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I think it's normal in any religion to disagree in alot of issues. Our differences are a mercy and a blessing upon us but not a curse, IMO.
Maybe. You are obviously not familiar with Indian history. When you understand it thoroughly, we can talk about it.

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Do you think India will be saved ONLY if the hindu followers became united?

What about the other religions in India, wouldn't you feel it's would be great if they united too, then all religions in India would live in peace if they wished goodness and good will for each other?
As Hindus are the majority, I would say, yes, the salvation of India lies in Hindu unity. India was built on a distinctly Hindu foundation - unless non-Hindus can be proud of this, unity with other religions will not be possible.

Yes, peace with other religions would be great, but I don't see it as a viable solution. Hindus cannot forget 450 years of Islamic domination. It's not just me.

Hinduism is a very uniquely tolerant religion - we accept everyone so long as they accept us. You will never find such acceptance in any other religions with the exception of perhaps the Baha'i.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:51 PM
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You said that: it would equally stupid to say that Muslims have not committed the majority of the atrocities.

I believe this issue can be debated but this is not the right place for it, because each party claim that the *others* are responsible for the majority of the attacks.
I don't know who you would blame for the majority, but I would certainly lose a great deal of intellectual respect for you if you considered Hindus to have committed that majority.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:29 PM
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Because it would result in cultural unity which India is in dire need of. The lack of unity led to Islamic domination for 400 years and British domination, after Shivaji the Great returned Hindu supremacy to the subcontinent.

Both Celina and Mahesh believe a man is God, but disagree on the particulars of devotion of philosophical nuances. Have you seen the disagreements they've had? They are quite heated, despite belonging to same religion.

Unless there is a feeling of unity, that despite philosophical differences, we are Hindu, then India cannot progress culturally. The current economic scene is a farce in comparison to the gross amounts of communalism among people between the states, religions, castes, languages, etc.

India has not learned its lesson and its openness will be its downfall again.
Yes, there should be unity. But it should be national unity, not religious unity. One should be able to look at one's fellow countryman or woman and feel kinship, regardless of whether he or she is Hindum, Muslim, Sikh, or Christian, etc.

A "national religion" to which everyone was expected to adhere would surely be a mistake in a country as diverse as India.

As Voltaire said (paraphrasing): Where there is one religion there is tyranny. Where there are two religions there is civil war. Only with a multitude of religions is there peace.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:39 PM
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Yes, peace with other religions would be great, but I don't see it as a viable solution. Hindus cannot forget 450 years of Islamic domination. It's not just me.

Hinduism is a very uniquely tolerant religion - we accept everyone so long as they accept us. You will never find such acceptance in any other religions with the exception of perhaps the Baha'i.
It is surprising to me that you can type the first paragraph and the second together without any awareness of irony.

It's also surprising to me that you can quote Gandhi and yet hold such a deep grudge.

I'll take my leave of this thread, which started out on such a positive note of mutual understanding, and let you guys have at it.
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Buddhism is equally tolerant if not more than Hinduism;

a great example: Do you see Buddhists go on rampage and killing Muslims when the Big Buddha Statues were destroyed by the Taliban Muslims in Afghanistan?
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Yes, peace with other religions would be great, but I don't see it as a viable solution. Hindus cannot forget 450 years of Islamic domination. It's not just me.
I can understand this since Islamic expansion into India was anything but peaceful.

However treat it as a past karma and look forward to peace and prosperity with muslims; only the tolerant and peace loving country will be rewarded with peace.

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India has not learned its lesson and its openness will be its downfall again.
Openness is a good thing. The important thing is to seperate religion from politics; then you can have any number of religion in the country and still remain unified and peaceful.

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It is surprising to me that you can type the first paragraph and the second together without any awareness of irony.

It's also surprising to me that you can quote Gandhi and yet hold such a deep grudge.
Don't be surprised lilithu; look at India and its neibouring muslim countries; do u see Hinduism or Buddhism being accepted in Afghanistan or Pakistan? I congradulate India and Hindus for being a tolerant country and people respectively.

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