Kusang and Satsang (ritual, moral, followers, doctrine, preach)

[mahesh]

Really? You think such?Thats real bad!!! Is this what BAPS teaches its followers now is it? Well if this was the case then why did Bhagwan establish Lakshmi Narayan Dev and state He resides in them? Why didn’t He just consecrate the murti in Bochasan and established the Upasna of Akshar Purushottam? Why is it that when He left the mortal world that He stated that “what He has come for was now all complete and nothing more was left to do”? Why is it that you haven’t read the Shastras which clearly state that Bhagwan Himself stated that He will reside in these Murtis till the Sun and Moon shine (“Yavat Surya Chandra…”). Why is it that the murtis are still maha chamatkaari and have carried out many chamatkaars in the last 100 years after Bochasan was established later in 1907? As if Bhagwan no longer resided there then this wouldn’t be the case. You shouldn’t state such. That’s Avgun of Bhagwan! That is a major sin! Even Sadguru Gunatitanand Swami states such in His vato!! That such shouldn’t be done or you will fall from satsang!!In vaat 112 of Prakran 5 of Gunatitanand swami’s vaato:Ane acharya Adhik charno avgun ave e motu paap che.Bija toh anek swabhav hoye, paan ae paapnu mool che.Te paap ne vishe punya ni buddhi thaye,ne sadhu ne vishe asadhuni budhi thaay,Pachi droha thaay, paachi teno jeev nash thaay.Evu eh che,mateh varamvaar kevanu tatparya shu che?Toh eke vaaat haiya mah rakhine koi divas eh marghe charvu nahi.Ne eni (Dev (murti), acharya, sant, haribhakt) toh puja karvi nikarva haath jorva.Pan avgun toh nahij levo eh amaaro siddhant hato the kahyo.Sadhu ni,Mandir ni,acharya ni ne satsangi ni seva karvi toh vruddhi pamaay.Ne droh thaiye toh jeev no nash thaiye.You should change your ways as you get older. Otherwise no one can help you.

[Don Penguinoini]

Making more stuff up are we?

[mahesh]

Have no answers? Shows how much what you follow can be backed up. Not much huh? Well then i guess its time you opened your eyes or at least did some research into the authentic Swaminarayan scriptures and realised for yourself. Im not blaming you, im just hoping you realise before its tool ate. Im not even telling you to give up what you do follow, but at least recognise the Dharm, Agna and Upasna Bhagwan established for His devotees. As from your amswers, you as a so called Swaminarayan follower, we can see that you havent as of yet.

[Don Penguinoini]

I have.

[mahesh]

Well then thats good for you and hopefully you will start answering my questions.

[zenzero]

Friend Celina,
In sociology there is a saying
"Society makes a man"
it is because of that SANGHA of SAT or KU.
The above is absolutely correct if you are a weak person.
If you have that sensitivity and understanding to chnage others what great prople have brought known or unknown from vedic times then you would realise that
"Man makes society"
You decide what your Sangha should be and what the direction to take.
Love & rgds

[exsadhu]

Read the scriptures from bhagwan swaminarayan and not those churned out by the right wing shahibaug propagation press of publications for profits .....at no administrative cost of course....if the saying still holds.

[exsadhu]

Celina does not sound "bharatiya ot sanskrutik {as your senior**santos might think!

[Aupmanyav]

And not Geeta??