Holy Shikshapatri (eternal, scriptures, God, cross)

[mahesh]

LOL. So if there is no Karma and Maya then Bhagwan Shri Krishna is wrong in Gita when he talks about Ishwars, Parkruti, and Pradhan etc? If all is Brahm then why do you worry over Bhagwan Swaminarayan and what we follow? If we are in illusion let us be, why are you worried?

How can there be mortals in the first place if all is Brahm?? If mortals cannot know the Dharm of Brahm then why do you know it? YOU STATE THAT THE MORTALS DO NOT KNOW THE DHARM OF BRAHM.

If Brahm is all and it cannot be affected then Karma and Maya, then how can Brahm be all? If it was then Karma and Maya Should also be Brahm. But you state that Brahm is not affected by Maya and Karma. Thus making them separate entities. Then how can all be Brahm if there are separate entities? Truth is you have no absolute knowledge. All you realise is Brahm but not Parbrahm. Here is a Vachnamrut for the likes of you:

Then Shriji Maharaj asked, ' Here in this world the debating groups have two contradictory opinions. One such argument is Dwait and another is Adwait, Now tell me, out of these two, which one should be accepted by a seeker of the absolute knowledge?' Oh Maharaj! In Advait School, the meditator would consider his soul as God and would act in free style resulting ultimately in the fall from the path of emancipation.

Therefore a devotee of God should practice the path of Dwaita.' Then Shriji Maharaj posed a doubt, ' In Dwait, the soul, God and Maya have been taken as truth. Then how a soul would attain emancipation in the presence of Maya?' Then Purushottam Bhatt said, ' He would attain Moksh (emancipation) through his good deeds.' Then again Shriji Maharaj expressed his doubt, 'There are two types of deeds - Nivrutti, (withdrawal from the deeds). Pravruti (involvement in the deeds). Both types of the deeds merge in Maya who is in the state of Sushupti (sleep). As nobody is capable of crossing Lokaloka Parvat (a divine mountain mentioned in the scriptures). In a Similar way it is not possible to go beyond Sushupati (sleep state) Maya. And Samyavastha Maya is larger than Sushupti, therefore nobody could scale through. There is only one means to cross this illusive Maya. If a soul takes refuge at the lotus feet of Shri Purushottam Bhagwan who is the destroyer of Maya, or serve the saint of Lord Purushottam Bhagwan, he becomes able to cross Maya.'

Parbrahm Purshottam Bhagwan bless you Aupmanyav. May Bhagwan show you the correct path of raching Him.

Jay Swaminarayan.

[Don Penguinoini]

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

If you identify with 'Brahman', then there is no God. You yourself are it.

Brahman and I are 100% different, there is no way i am him/her. Ony brahman has the right to call itself brahman, humans a jiv(a) We are at the botto mof the five eternal realities.

[mahesh]

If people learned the Tatva Gyaan of jeev, ishwar, maya, Brahman and parbrahman, only then can they realise aboslute knowledge. Aupmanyav just types of drivel. Which clearly concludes that he does not have such knowledge. MAy PArbrahm Sakaar Murti Purshotaam Bhagwan bless His poor soul.

Jay Swaminarayan.

[Aupmanyav]

Aupmanyav does not have a soul.

[Don Penguinoini]

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav does not have a soul.

You finally got something right!!! LOL

[mahesh]

LOL, i was really laughin gat that one but truth is he does have a soul. Poor him doesnt realise.

[Aupmanyav]

It is a good ploy to extend our existence for those who fear. If our bodies cannot survive, let the atma survive. But that is not correct. Actually nothing survives but the substrate, Brahman. Why should we fear death, when we ourselves are Brahman. Death is an illusion, just as birth is. That is why Lord Krishna said 'there was no time when you were not there, there would be no time when you would not be there'. Brahman in us seems to take another form, that is our perception and it is wrong.

[Don Penguinoini]

5 realities, jeev, ishwar, maya, brahm, parabrahm. We are at the bottom of the chain jeev, parabrahm is at the top, there you go, different, NOT the same. Maya is a gate, we cant open and close it but brahma and parabrahma can.

[mahesh]

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

It is a good ploy to extend our existence for those who fear. If our bodies cannot survive, let the atma survive. But that is not correct. Actually nothing survives but the substrate, Brahman. Why should we fear death, when we ourselves are Brahman. Death is an illusion, just as birth is. That is why Lord Krishna said 'there was no time when you were not there, there would be no time when you would not be there'. Brahman in us seems to take another form, that is our perception and it is wrong.

Lord Shri Krishna stated this because the Atma is eternal and doesnt have a birth or an end it is anadi. Thats why. LOL.Also Bahgwan Shri Kishna talks of KArma and MAya and Sin. But you will also make anarth out of arth. lol

[celina]

Holy Shikshapatri Part ONE

Regular Recital

Read this Shikshapatri daily.
If that is not possible, ask someone to read it out to you,
and so listen to it with great reverence.
If that too is not possible, then adore and worship it daily
with great reverence.
Thus revere this Shikshapatri
as the very embodiment of My Divine Personality.
Shloka: 208, 209

Path of Righteousness

He who performs righteous deeds is happy. He who acts thoughtlessly or with a bad intention invites misery.
Shloka: 8

Perform duties appropriate to your station in life. Do not perform duties that are prescribed for others. Do not perform duties that are fictitious or imaginary.
Shloka: 24

Do not act thoughtlessly and without due deliberation. However, act promptly in matters pertaining to religious duties.
Shloka: 36

However beneficial or profitable it may be, do not perform unrighteous actions. Do not give up the path of righteousness out of greed or selfishness.
Shloka: 73

Follow only the righteous deeds of great men but do not follow examples of their unrighteous actions.
Shloka: 74

Ethical Life

Do not gamble.
Do not steal; not even for a religious or a benevolent cause. Do not take fuel, flowers, fruits and such things without the owner's permission - not even for a good cause, such as worship or making an offering to a deity.
Shloka: 17, 18

Do not use abusive language. For the sake of a selfish gain, do not lay a false accusation.
Shloka: 20

Do not accept bribes. Speak only the truth. But do not utter such words that may hurt others.
Shloka: 26

Do not trespass into prohibited areas belonging to others. Do not use the premises of others, without seeking the prior permission of its owners.
Shloka: 33

Do not commit a breach of trust.
Shloka: 37

Do not indulge in self-praise.
Shloka: 57

Non-Violence

Non-violence is the highest ethical code of behavior. Do not kill any living creature. Do not kill animals; not even for a sacrificial offering to a deity or to an ancestor.
Shloka: 11, 12

Do not kill a human being; not even for the acquisition of a woman, wealth or a kingdom.
Shloka: 13

Do not commit suicide; not even in a place of pilgrimage or a holy shrine. Whether in a fit of anger or out of guilt for a sinful act, do not commit suicide.
Shloka: 14

Do not mutilate any part of your body or that of others, either out of anger, excitement or as a punishment for misconduct.
Shloka: 16

Being Practical in Life

Keep away from the company of thieves, vicious persons, drug addicts, heretics, sex maniacs and deceivers.
Shloka: 27

When any serious trouble arises from natural calamities, fellow men or illness, act cautiously and carefully to protect your life and that of others.
Shloka: 119

In practical life, even with friends and relatives, do not carry out transactions of sale, purchase, transfer, borrowing, lending, payment, etc., without an appropriate document in writing, and the presence of witnesses.
Shloka: 143

Maintain a daily account of income and expenditure. Do not indulge in extravagant expenses. Let not your expenses exceed your income.
Shloka: 145, 146

Even if it be your native place or usual place of residence, leave it and migrate to a better place, especially when your prestige, property or life is in danger on account of acute famine, harassment from the wicked or the tyranny of the state authority.
Shloka: 153, 154

Diet and Ecology

Do not eat meat.
Shloka: 15

Do not consume tobacco, hemp or hashish nor consume wines, liquors, opium and other such alcoholic drinks and drugs.
Shloka: 18

Do not drink unfiltered water nor use water which contains germs; not even for bathing purposes.
Shloka: 30

Do not consume food, drink and medicine given by a doctor whose conduct and credentials are unknown to you.
Shloka: 31

Do not dirty public places such as mandir premises, holy shrines, lakes or river banks, highways, the ground around trees, farms with standing crops, by spitting, urinating, defecating and throwing garbage.
Shloka: 32

Social Ethics

Entrust tasks to a man for which he is best suited. Do not entrust him duties for which he is unfit.
Shloka: 66

Take good care of your servants in respect of their food, clothing and shelter, according to your means of subsistence.
Shloka: 67

Address honorably and deal respectfully with people in accordance with their social status
and prevalent social customs.
Shloka: 68

Spreading of knowledge and education is a great meritorious deed. If possible, either aid or establish an educational institution and appoint pious scholars as teachers therein to spread
the right knowledge on the earth.
Shloka: 132

Serve fellow beings in their illness and distress. Serve your parents in their old age and take good care of them, especially in their illness.
Shloka: 139

Pay the correct wages in cash or kind, according to the contract to the workers employed by you.
Shloka: 152

If you happen to be in power as the head of a state, then: live a righteous and religious life; treat your subjects like members of your own family; take good care of them; and make an honest attempt to consolidate morality and religion in your kingdom.
Shloka: 157

Continence

Do not commit adultery. Do not indulge in pre-marital, extra-marital or illicit sex relations.
Shloka: 18

But for sheer emergencies, avoid the company of the opposite sex in solitary places.
Shloka: 136
http://www.swaminarayan.org/scriptur...htm#continence