Vaada :Hindu and Indian logic and reasoning (testimony, reject, Creator)

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

Yes, I am not what I seem to be.

So are you saying that you are not human. Which species are you then !

[Aupmanyav]

Yes, I am not what I seem to be. I am a collection of atoms. And if I look closely, I find that atoms are not solid balls, they are just 'quantum fields', waves, particles, energy. In that case, I become quite nebulous (you too). If I term myself as Aupmanyav and a human, that is an illusion of scale. There is only one specie and only one specimen, and that is Brahman.

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

There is only one specie and only one specimen, and that is Brahman.

Which means Aham Bhramasmi -- I am He.

[niranjan]

Q: How can the reason be developed?



Sweet Mother: Oh! By using it! Reason is developed like the muscles, like the will. All these things are developed by a rational use. Reason! Everyone possesses reason, only he doesn’t make use of it. Some people are very much afraid of reason because it contradicts their impulses. So they prefer not to listen to it. Then, naturally, if one makes it a habit not to listen to reason, instead of developing, it losses its light more and more.

To develop reason you must want to do it sincerely: if on one side you tell your self “ I want to develop my reason”, and on the other you don’t listen to what reason tells you to do, then you never come to anything, because naturally, if each time it tells you
“don’t do this” or “do this”, you do the opposite, it will loose the habit of saying anything at all.

[Aupmanyav]

Whom are you addressing? Does the only indication of a developed reason is that I should believe what you believe in?

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

Whom are you addressing?

The post above is not addressed to anyone in particular. It is for all.

Originally Posted by Aupmanyav

Does the only indication of a developed reason is that I should believe what you believe in?

And where have I said that. Truth is self-sustaining and independent of public opinion.

And you get to that through your own reason and intuitions.

[niranjan]

Logic as an explicit analysis of the methods of reasoning received sustained development originally in India before the other civilizations , the chinese and the greek , which are the only civilizations along with India that developed the systems of logic in a clear, detailed and unambigous manner.

So India was the first nation and civilization that studied and emphasized logic as the study of principles and criteria of valid inference and the method of reasoning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Logic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyaya

[Aupmanyav]

IMHO, you are right. We are old hands at it. Your use of 'you' was a bit accusative, but I was wrong.

[siddhartha200]

Excellent thread, very educative and informative. Thanks Niranjan.

[niranjan]

Originally Posted by siddhartha200

Excellent thread, very educative and informative. Thanks Niranjan.

Thanks pal.