VERSES of UPANISHAD (Earth, beliefs, evolution, creation, pray)

[celina]

nice thread

[Hema]

Originally Posted by Milind2469

Thank you Hema ji for replying.
I am yet to come across any emotional side of God as given in the pure Hindu books be it love or hate. Hindu God seems to be more of statistical by nature. He only keeps account of Karmas and delivers outcome. He is more rational than kind or loving or whatever ( in sharp contrast with Cristian God?)

We see Lord Krishna asking Arjuna to kill thousands of Arjun's own relatives some of who Arjuna had actually loved and liked and had no personally enmity with Arjun.

For some small crimes a rishi ethnically cleansed the entire world of Kshatriyas.

The Ramayan, Mahabharat, all purans are full of bloody violence and not Ahimsa as you said.

I wish to write much more but I don't have time now. Sometime later.

All above examples are the examples of ruthlessly rational and logical nature of God who only gives verdict based upon our "sanchit" i.e.our bank of karmas.

God loves us unconditionally. The law of karma is the law of the universe - for every action there is a reaction. The same Christian God is also our God because there is only one. Christians say that we must fear God but Hindus say that we must love God. Christians say that God will judge us and can even send us to an eternity of hell. When we do wrong things we will have to face the consequences. Similarly a parent will correct his child so that the child will learn his lesson. Karma does not mean that we are predestined to suffer. By doing good now, we can soften or offset our past bad karma and generate good karma for the future. God is indeed loving, he says in the Gita that when we put our love and devotion in him, he will personally take care of all our needs. All souls will eventually reunite with God.

Ahimsa does not mean that we cannot stand up in self-defense or stand up for a just cause. Arjuna showed us that we must stand up for what is right even if it means that we have to go against our relatives. Arjuna's relatives were also fighting against Shri Krishna who was an avatar of God. Why did they not choose to be on the side of the Lord? Even Shri Ram demonstrated this fighting nature when his wife was kidnapped.

[Milind2469]

Good reply there dear Hema!

In sanatan tradition, the best book on spiritualism, to attain the ultimate stage...is "Patanjali Yogasutra"

What is the "very first" verse of that book where he defines Yog?

[Hema]

Originally Posted by Milind2469

Good reply there dear Hema!

In sanatan tradition, the best book on spiritualism, to attain the ultimate stage...is "Patanjali Yogasutra"

What is the "very first" verse of that book where he defines Yog?

I didn't know but I consulted my on-line guruji "google".

I came across: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.js...81474976930098

"Maharishi Patanjali's Yog Sutras is the best known treatise on the Hindu system of meditation. The Sutras begin with a definition of Yog and then go on to explain how Yog can be attained.
"Yog" has the meanings of "union", "integration", "merger" etc. The purpose of Yog is to achieve union of the human soul with the Universal Soul called Paramatama, literally "The Supreme Soul". Yog is also intended to integrate the individual to his environment, to the society in which he lives and to other souls in a spiritual sense. At another level, Yog is the integration of the emotions and the intellect, the healthy functioning of the body with the healthy functioning of the mind and an integrated balance between desires and their fulfilment. In this way, the word Yog has several levels of meaning. Yog is not just the physical postures for attaining flexibility of body, as many tend to believe. The physical postures are, in fact, only a preparatory stage which makes the body fit for the mental and spiritual exercises."