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Old 07-04-2007, 03:13 PM
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Question Wandering souls / people who die in accidents & their karma.

I think that no one dies before his/her time but recently someone was saying that when people die in accidents, their souls wander around until the time they are really supposed to die, then they move on. To me, such cases are when the souls are troubled and still attached to the material plane so they remain here as restless souls wandering about until they realize it's time to move on. IMHO, God is a just God and he/she would not let us die before our due time. If we are meant to die in an accident, we will die that way. In such a case, it will be because of the person's karma.

What do you nice people think? Do people who die in accidents die before their alotted time is up or do they wander around because they're restless?
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:52 PM
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It is a mistake to think that its the soul doing the wandering.

A soul departs at the moment of death. It never lingers.

What a "ghost" is, is the residual electrical energy generated by the mind. What does the mind contain? The ego. The self identity of the deceased.

You are aware that the soul is covered by different sheaths?

The physical. The mental. The subtle.

Ghosts come from the mental level, the mind, which is the highest form of material matter. The electrical energy that powers your brain is of the material world, but it is highly refined and etheric. When someone dies, this energy is left behind, but gradually it dissipates. It may appear to have a life of it's own, but not really.

Its not the soul of the person though.

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I think that no one dies before his/her time but recently someone was saying that when people die in accidents, their souls wander around until the time they are really supposed to die, then they move on. To me, such cases are when the souls are troubled and still attached to the material plane so they remain here as restless souls wandering about until they realize it's time to move on. IMHO, God is a just God and he/she would not let us die before our due time. If we are meant to die in an accident, we will die that way. In such a case, it will be because of the person's karma.

What do you nice people think? Do people who die in accidents die before their alotted time is up or do they wander around because they're restless?
I think you're right about God not letting us "die before our due time." I think people who profess ghosts trapped on a "material plane" should be required to explain exactly what that means.
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It is a mistake to think that its the soul doing the wandering.

A soul departs at the moment of death. It never lingers.

What a "ghost" is, is the residual electrical energy generated by the mind. What does the mind contain? The ego. The self identity of the deceased.

You are aware that the soul is covered by different sheaths?

The physical. The mental. The subtle.

Ghosts come from the mental level, the mind, which is the highest form of material matter. The electrical energy that powers your brain is of the material world, but it is highly refined and etheric. When someone dies, this energy is left behind, but gradually it dissipates. It may appear to have a life of it's own, but not really.

Its not the soul of the person though.

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Amazing! BFD_Zayl (the necromancer )once told me about the residual electrical energy. When my mom was little she saw a headless man on a white horse dragging a chain. My aunt saw it also so we know that my mom was not imagining things.

In my country, many people have reported seeing a girl near a busy highway who died many years ago in an accident. I'm amazed to think that this is really electrical energy.

However, what about people who report seeing deceased relatives in mirrors soon after they died? Are these really electrical energy also or is it something special about mirrors?
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:32 PM
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I think you're right about God not letting us "die before our due time." I think people who profess ghosts trapped on a "material plane" should be required to explain exactly what that means.
By material plane, I mean the physical world.
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As the ego contains all the likes and dislikes of the departed, it will continue to behave in that manner after the death of the body. It can follow loved ones around for example, or it can rage at not being able to get anybody's attention anymore.

Some of these energies can last for years.

As for the loved ones who see their dearly departed, it is as I mentioned above, but also it can be wishful thinking. Death of a loved one often comes suddenly. There is remorse at not having had the chance to say goodbye.

Sometimes, the mind will create what it needs to see for the sake of closure.


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Go to Sarangpur Hanumanji Mandir if you want to see ghost. LOL
Sorry, never heard of there. Anyway, they will most likely be friendly ghosts because Hanuman protects us from evil spirits.
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As the ego contains all the likes and dislikes of the departed, it will continue to behave in that manner after the death of the body. It can follow loved ones around for example, or it can rage at not being able to get anybody's attention anymore.

Some of these energies can last for years.

As for the loved ones who see their dearly departed, it is as I mentioned above, but also it can be wishful thinking. Death of a loved one often comes suddenly. There is remorse at not having had the chance to say goodbye.

Sometimes, the mind will create what it needs to see for the sake of closure.


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Wow! Thanks again! This is such interesting stuff.
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What about evil spirits who try to harm people though? Are these also remnants of energy or are they spirits who choose to be bad? My friend was harassed by a spirit at around the time her grandfather died. Her grandfatehr used to live in the same house. She used to feel the spirit holding her down at night. She went to a Baptist woman (who also prays to the Hindu Deities etc.) and my friend was given a blessed necklace to wear for protection. The Baptist woman summomed the "spirit" and my friend saw it - she said it was extremely long and thin, very black and had red eyes.
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