The Quantum Theory, The Gospel of Thomas, & God

[Kurt31416]

The Quantum Theory, The Gospel of Thomas, & The Kingdom of the
Father


Introduction

This is an effort to look at the first 20 sayings of the
Gospel of Thomas from the viewpoint of the Many Worlds of the
Quantum Theory and General Relativity. No great effort will be
made here to defend QT and GR, and very little time will be
spent explaining them. They have been the undisputed absolute
Kings of Science for 75 years. It also assumes knowledge of the Gospel
of Thomas.

Here's the quick summary: The Everett Many Worlds
Interpretation of the Quantum Theory is perhaps the
most popular fundamental explanation of the Universe with top
physicists. It's the same thing as the movie Back to the Future.
In some worlds, Biff is washing the car, in some he's silly rich, in
some he's dead, and in some he lives forever. You get the same exact
set of Many Worlds, with exactly the same relationships if you accept
the Ockams Razor solution of the Universe Big Banging and Big Crunching
forever. It's like shaking a pool table. If you do it long enough,
the balls will re rack themselves. It produces the same Biff washing
the car/silly rich/dead/living forever. The "you" in that
other World is just as much "you" as the "you" of tomorrow
morning. In some cases, much more so. You can roughly calculate
it.

Granted everyone sees what they want in the words of Jesus,
no doubt that was one of Jesus's big tricks, the
effect that had and has on people. But I'm tellin' ya' it's
downright spooky how Jesus seems to be talking about modern Many
Worlds physics. And it's worth pointing out, that Thomas, unlike all
other gospels, has no contradictions of science whatsoever. No walking
on water, no supernatural stuff whatsoever. Science don't know
everything, and it never will, but if you directly contradict
it, it's not a good sign. And in that respect, the Gospel of Thomas
stands alone.


A Many Worlds Interpretation of the First 20 Sayings of the Long
Lost Gospel of Thomas

1 "These are the hidden sayings that the
living Jesus spoke and Judas who is also Thomas recorded.
And he said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these
sayings will not taste death."

It's also known as Quantum Immortality. A spooky subject.

2 Jesus said, "Let the one seeking not stop seeking
until he finds. And when he finds he will marvel, and
marveling he will reign, and reigning he will rest."

"Anyone that is not shocked by the Quantum Theory has not
understood it." Neils Bohr (You could say he's the father of
the Quantum Theory.)

"I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with
it." "Let me say at the outset, that in this discourse, I am
opposing not a few special statements of quantum mechanics
held today (1950s), I am opposing as it were the whole of it,
I am opposing its basic views that have been shaped 25 years
ago, when Max Born put forward his probability interpretation,
which was accepted by almost everybody." Erwin Schrodinger
(Who's Wave Equation has produced all the miracles of modern
science in the last 75 years.)

"God doesn't play dice with the Universe." Al Einstein (Who
invented both the Quantum Theory and General Relativity, then
spent the rest of his life denouncing the Quantum Theory. The
Many Worlds Interpretation wasn't published until after his
death. I suspect he would have been thrilled, and would have
seen it's truth instantly. Perhaps even stogy old Schrodinger.
Hard to say about Bohr, he's the one that created the
competitive Copenhagen Interpretation that dominated all science
for most of the last 75 years, and drove Einstein up the wall. Einstein
was right, Bohr was wrong. Like that's a big shock.)

3a Jesus said, "If those pulling you say to
you, 'Look, the kingdom is in the sky,' the birds
of the sky will go before you. Or if they say that it is beneath
the ground, the fish of the sea will go in, preceding you. And the
kingdom of God is within you and outside you.

Breathtaking. With 18 and 113, the fundamental worldview of
Jesus. This is Heaven. This is our eternal life. We are part
of the Kingdom.

3b Whoever knows himself will find this and when you
know yourselves you will know that you are children of
the living father. But if you will not know yourselves,
you are in poverty and you are the poverty."

If everything that can happen, does happen, and it's a matter
of probability where you land, why make the effort? Because
that contingent part, that Free Will part, the branching into
the Many Worlds part is the part of the Quantum Theory that
you can prove, with formal math, is eternally unknowable. The
part where the Quantum Theory will eternally fail to describe the
Kingdom of the Father. The part where you can prove Free Will, and
the Kingdom of the Father is eternally Unknowable. You can't control
any particular roll of dice, but you can control what kind of person
you are, what rolls of the dice you are confronted with. Know yourself.

4 Jesus said, "A person old in days will not
hesitate to ask a child seven days old about his place in
life and he will live. For many of the first will be last
and many of the last will be first and they will become
one."

The first you of one Big Bang/Crunch World will be the last
you of another, and they are both you. (And if you can make
the two into one, you won't taste death.)

5 Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face and what has been
hidden from you will be revealed to you. For there is nothing hidden
that will not be made clear and nothing buried that will not be
raised."

Oh, in an infinite number of the Many Worlds, any particular
secret of yours will be revealed to the world. And people that
are buried will show up again an infinite number of times.

6 His disciples questioned him and said, "How should we
fast and how should we pray, and how should we do
charitable deeds and what food law should we observe?"
Jesus said, "Do not lie and that which you hate, do
not do because everything is evident before the truth. For
there is nothing hidden that will not be made clear."

The Golden Rule is good logical advice. No wise man is going
to leave that one out. One thing's for sure, in another of the
Many Worlds, your secrets will be known, and they will have
the opportunity to do unto you in return.

7 Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat,
so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that
the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."

Jesus is pointing out the localization of self is an illusion.
You are turning breakfast into you all the time. The old you
is constantly replaced with new stuff. Whatever particular
molecule you are made out of doesn't matter. You don't have to
worry about the other "you" in another Big Bang/Crunch using
some exact same molecules. Gotta abandon that simplistic
notion of self, the reward is great.

8 And he said, The person is like a wise fisherman who
cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full
of little fish. Among them the wise fisherman discovered a
fine large fish. He threw all the little fish back into
the sea, and easily chose the large fish. Anyone here with
two good ears had better listen!

9 Jesus said, Look, the sower went out, took a handful (of
seeds), and scattered (them). Some fell on the road, and
the birds came and gathered them. Others fell on rock, and
they didn't take root in the soil and didn't produce heads
of grain. Others fell on thorns, and they choked the seeds
and worms ate them. And others fell on good soil, and it
produced a good crop: it yielded sixty per measure and one hundred
twenty per measure.

Well, those two are some of Jesus's way of dealing with
hecklers and those who weren't impressed. One liner put downs.

10 Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the
world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."

No particular application. Damned if he didn't. Half the
people on earth think he's at least a prophet. The good and
evil done in his name...

11a Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away,
and the one above it will pass away.

A Big Bang is followed by a Big Crunch, followed by a Big
Bang, followed by a Big Crunch...

11b The dead are not alive, and the living will not die.

You'll be back, (and you will live this life until you are
over a billion years old.)

11c During the days when you ate what is dead, you made it
come alive. When you are in the light, what will you do?
On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you
become two, what will you do?"

You become two constantly. Two different Many Worlds. Qubits.
Quantum bits. It from bit. And if you can make the two into
one, if you realize they are both you, in case I haven't
mentioned it, you won't know death.

12 The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are
going to leave us. Who will be our leader?" Jesus said to
them, "No matter where you are you are to go to James the
Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."'

No particular application. Can't blame Thomas for politicing
for his brother James. Thomas probably said it, the question
is whether Jesus did. Well, he had plenty of time to speak his
mind about what to do next in the hours he was on the cross.
At any rate, it helps date Thomas far before any other Gospel.

Continued...

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Continued...
13 ...

It's Thomas talking, not Jesus.

14 Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring
sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if
you give to charity, you will harm your spirits. When you go into any
region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in,
eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them. After all, what
goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out
of your mouth that will defile you."

Why on earth would you pray to the Father? What's that about?
Like the Father of the Kingdom is impressed by groveling. And
some of Jesus's near universal, open contempt for religious
dogma, such as dietary laws.

15 Jesus said, "When you see one who was not
born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is
your Father."

No particular application. It would certainly be a major
event, although those computers are getting pretty clever...
And worth pointing out that since Jesus did have a mother,
everyone agrees on that, he's saying it ain't him. He ain't
God. He's a son of Adam like all of us.

16 Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I
have come to casy peace upon the world. They do not know
that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire,
sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be
three against two and two against three, father against son and
son against father, and they will stand alone.

No particular application. All that pacifist stuff is from
well after the Jewish Revolt. Not a teeny-tiny trace in any of
the early stuff like Paul, Mark, and Thomas. He believed in
the Golden Rule, and supported the poor and persecuted, and
shunned material possessions and, and condemned greed, but never
mentions loving your enemy or turning the other cheek. Not the Jesus
of Thomas or Mark, he was looking for trouble. Fire, Sword, War.

17 Jesus said, "I will give you what no eye has
seen, what no ear has heard, what no hand has touched,
what has not arisen in the human heart."

Can't dispute that. They sure as heck didn't have the Quantum
Theory and General Relativity around at the time.

18 The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will
our end come?" Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning,
then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where
the beginning is. Congratulations to the one who stands at the
beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste
death."

Isn't that beautiful. Poetic, and true. From the sequential GR
viewpoint, the end of your life is the beginning of your next
one. You won't notice the time in between, you won't be here
to do so.

19 Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who
came into being before coming into being. If you become my
disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones
will serve you. For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they
do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall.
Whoever knows them will not taste death."

Well, everyone comes into being before coming into being. Been
Bang and Big Crunching forever, and always will, (and if you
know it, you won't know death.) I have no clue what he's
talking about with the five trees thing.

20 The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what Heaven's
kingdom is like." He said to them, It's like a mustard seed, the
smallest of all seeds, but when it falls on prepared soil, it produces
a large plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky.

That's what the Singularity/Big Bang/Big Crunch is. The
"smallest of all seeds". The fundamental proof of the theory
of limits, that defines the Calculus, the math they use in GR
and QT, is like the schoolyard taunt, "Whatever you call me,
you are twice that." Except in the case of limits, it's
"However small a number you pick, this is smaller." The
smallest of all seeds. (Not "infinitely small", that's sloppy
math or something, it has to be "mine is smaller than yours/smallest
of all", just like Jesus, to be good math.) And yep, it expanded
to the present Kingdom of the Father that shelters all the birds of
the sky. Later he says the Kingdom is like a loaf of rising bread.
Expanding. That's the example used in 95% of all physics classes. The
Kingdom/Universe started very small and expanded to it's present size.
That was Jesus's world view.

Jesus is right about everything. I mean, after 2000 years,
seems he'd say something really lame, or superstitious, but he
never does.

Summary

On a personal note, from early childhood, I always thought it
was repeated Big Bangs and Crunches, and we all
live forever. Never been a doubt in my mind for over a half a
century. I think the first to bring it up was the
formidible John Wheeler in the early fifties, I must have seen it on
TV.

And it's all in Thomas.

It's not that Jesus got close to modern science it's that
science is finally doing a better job of approximating what he said
2000 years ago.

Current Events in Physics...

This was written several years ago, and some here may be familiar with
it. The amazing thing is how the lastest fad in physics, "M" or Membrane
Theory, the current darling of science that's replaced string theory and
so on, predicts repeated Big Bangs and Big Crunches. M Theory will pass
away like the other fads, they're chasing their tails, but it's pretty
spooky how it mirrors the below.
'Cyclic universe' can explain cosmological constant
* 19:00 04 May 2006 * NewScientist.com news
service * Zeeya Merali

A cyclic universe, which bounces through a series of big bangs and "big
crunches", could solve the puzzle of our cosmological constant,
physicists suggest.

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn9114-cyclic-universe-can-explain\
-cosmological-constant.html
<http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn9114-cyclic-universe-can-explai\
n-cosmological-constant.html>

Edge, The Cyclic Universe

...The standard model, or consensus model, assumes that time has a
beginning that we normally refer to as the Big Bang. According to this
model, for reasons we don't quite understand, the universe sprang from
nothingness into somethingness, full of matter and energy, and has
been expanding and cooling for the past 15 billion years. In the
alternative model the universe is endless. Time is endless in the
sense that it goes on forever in the past and forever in the future,
and, in some sense, space is endless. Indeed, our three spatial
dimensions remain infinite throughout the evolution of the universe.

More specifically, this model proposes a universe in which the
evolution of the universe is cyclic. That is to say, the universe goes
through periods of evolution from hot to cold, from dense to
under-dense, from hot radiation to the structure we see today, and
eventually to an empty universe. Then, a sequence of events occurs that
cause the cycle to begin again. The empty universe is reinjected with
energy, creating a new period of expansion and cooling. This process
repeats periodically forever. What we're witnessing now is simply the
latest cycle.
The notion of a cyclic universe is not new. People have considered
this idea as far back as recorded history. The ancient Hindus, for
example, had a very elaborate and detailed cosmology based on a cyclic
universe. They predicted the duration of each cycle to be 8.64 billion
years-a prediction with three-digit accuracy. This is very
impressive, especially since they had no quantum mechanics and no string
theory! It disagrees with the number that I'm going suggest, which is
trillions of years rather than billions.
The cyclic notion has also been a recurrent theme in Western thought.
Edgar Allan Poe and Friedrich Nietzsche, for example, each had cyclic
models of the universe, and in the early days of relativistic
cosmology, Albert Einstein, Alexandr Friedman, Georges Lemaître,
and Richard Tolman were interested in the cyclic idea. I think it is
clear why so many have found the cyclic idea to be appealing: If you
have a universe with a beginning, you have the challenge of explaining
why it began and the conditions under which it began. If you have a
universe, which is cyclic, it is eternal, so you don't have to explain
the beginning.

During the attempts to try to bring cyclic ideas into modern
cosmology, it was discovered in the '20s and '30s that there are
various technical problems. The idea at that time was a cycle in which
our three-dimensional universe goes through periods of expansion
beginning from the Big Bang and then reversal to contraction and a big
crunch. The universe bounces and expansion begins again..."

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/steinhardt02/steinhardt02_p3.html
<http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/steinhardt02/steinhardt02_p3.html>

[biomystic]

As well as explains the Gospels of Thomas and John much clearer than trying to match quantum physics with the words and ideas of these texts.