Discussion of the Secret Book of John (Jesus, Earth, gospel)

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well if anyone wants to put up the next chapter be my guest. I dont like the long creation list though... so i was hoping that everyone would forget about this

No such luck. I think it's neat that people are still interested, so when I get back I'll probably start back on this.

I've been thinking, and since this is a discussion anyway, you people should have at it. *smiles*

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The Creation of Adam

"Yaldabaoth said to the authorities with him, Come, let us create a human being in the image of god and with a likeness to ourselves, so that this human image may give us light.


They created through their respective powers, according to the features that were given to them. Each of the authorities contributed a physical feature corresponding to the figure of the image they had seen. They created a being like the perfect first human and said, "Let us call it Adam, that it's name may give us power of light..."


Then we have a list.... if you want the entire list of who created which specific body part, feel free to look it up for yourselves

"...The throng of angels stood by and received these seven physical substances from the authorities in order to create a network of limbs and trunk. with all the parts properly arranged..."


...and we have another list that I dont feel is worth putting

Ok, in that long list is included which angels are over which body parts, left eyeball, right eyeball, all that good stuff. It gets to a point where it talks about the mother of all the parts, (Onorthochras) she's called matter. Then there are four demons named that take care of pleasure, desire, grief, and fear. They have a mother too. I'm tempted to ask why. Seriously, they already have the points mapped out, do they really need to go any more in depth? It's really easy to take this as all mythology now because it's so intricate and complicated. It's mostly just messing with the message.

"...From the four demons have come passions:
From grief come jealousy, envy, pain, trouble, distress, hardheartedness, anxiety sorrow and others.

From pleasure comes an abundance of evil, vain conceit, and the like.
From desire come anger, wrath, bitterness, intense lust, greed, and the like.
From fear come terror, servility, anguish, and shame.

All these are like virtues and vices. The insight into their nature is Anaro, who is head of the material soul, and it dwells with Esthesis-Z-Ouch-Epi-Ptoe. (The seven senses are not in an excited state.)


This is the number of angels. In all they number 365. They all worked together until, limb by limb, the physical and material body was completed. Now, there are others over the remaining passions, and I have not told you about them. If you want to know about them, the information is recorded in the Book of Zoroaster."

Yeah, so there's the Zoroastrian influence for ya.

The more I dig through this, the more I think maybe it was a bad idea to attempt covering this chapter first. OH WELL!

Well you guys play with it, see if you come up with anything. I'm gonna leave this mostly to you