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View Poll Results: Was Muhammad a man of Peace?
Yes, Muhammad was Peaceful 29 35.37%
Muhammad's society had issues that made him sometimes have to do things he'd rather not 22 26.83%
Muhammad wasn't peaceful 40 48.78%
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:02 AM
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Muhammad was one of the most successful generals and war leaders in history. Obviously, you can be a great warrior or you can be peaceful, but you can't be both.

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The idea of Muhammad as a military man will be new to many. Yet he was a truly great general. In the space of a single decade he fought eight major battles, led eighteen raids, and planned another thirty-eight military operations where others were in command but operating under his orders and strategic direction. Wounded twice, he also twice experienced having his positions overrun by superior forces before he managed to turn the tables on his enemies and rally his men to victory. More than a great field general and tactician, he was also a military theorist, organizational reformer, strategic thinker, operational-level combat commander, political-military leader, heroic soldier, and revolutionary. The inventor of insurgency warfare and history's first successful practitioner, Muhammad had no military training before he commanded an army in the field.
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With an ill-equipped body of three hundred and thirteen persons, having among them only two horses and seventy camels, the Prophet proceeded to Badr, about eighty miles from Medina, to meet the Meccan army. The forces met on the 17th of the month of Ramadhan, 2 A.H. (624 A.D.). After individual combats according to the custom of the Arabs, between Hamza, 'Ali and Ubaidah (all Hashimites) on the side of the Muslims and Utbah, Shaibah and Walid ibn 'Utbah (all Umayyads) from the Meccan ranks, a pitched battle ensued. The stakes were high. Both forces fought valiantly but the Muslims were animated by holy zeal. In the thick of the battle, the Prophet prayed to God, earnestly beseeching Him thus: "O Lord, forget not Thy promise of assistance! O Lord! If this little band were to perish, there will be none to offer worship unto Thee."
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The Muslims got the upper hand. The Meccans were driven back, leaving seventy dead, including a number of their notable chiefs. Out of 70, thirty-five were killed by 'Ali ibn Abi Talib alone. It was his first war. Seventy others were taken prisoners. The Muslim force had lost fourteen men.
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Does that sound peaceful to you?
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:09 AM
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"Was Muhammad Peaceful?"

Not to be dismissive of the OP nor disrespectful to its author, but does it really matter at this point whether or not some dead guy was peaceful or not?

And don't get me wrong, I realize Muhammad is a major historical figure and religious icon whom a lot of people, Muslims most obviously, view as being worthy of emulation. So, I guess the argument can be made that this fact alone makes the current question somewhat relevant.

But to that argument, I offer the following counter-statement: If you pattern your life after someone else, dead or living, then I think you are already misguided and it doesn't really matter the character you're striving to imitate. In other words, if you want to be just like Muhammad or Jesus or Thomas Jefferson or Mick Jagger or Payton Manning or anyone other than yourself, then I think you need to rethink who you are.

This is an opinion forum right? So here's mine laid out on this particular topic: There are admirable figures of antiquity who certainly can be looked at as 'role models', but nobody's freakin' perfect. We learn from their trials, their actions and the legends they left behind. We take the good and embrace it while we reject the bad and do our best to denounce it wherever it manifests itself.

If you've made an Idol out of a once living man or woman and you find yourself incapable of honest evaluation and reflection due to your worship of this person, if you are incapable of looking at both their greatness and their flaws with the same discerning objective eye, then you're probably already lost and false in your own beliefs.

I admire William Shakespeare and some of his fine qualities. But I realize he was just another man, and I certainly don't want to be him or even be just like him. I just appreciate his wisdom sometimes:

"To thine ownself be true, then it will follow, as surely as the night follows the day, that to no man, can you then be false."




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Hi friends! first of all I believe Muhammad (PBUH) was the most peaceful person I have ever heard or read of (trust me on this I have read of too many people).
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Hi friends! first of all I believe Muhammad (PBUH) was the most peaceful person I have ever heard or read of (trust me on this I have read of too many people).
Hi,was he more peaceful than Gandhi
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I'm pretty sure all he wanted to do was relax in bed with his 9 year old wife.
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Sure Muhammad was peaceful on occasions... especially after successful military campaigns that crushed opposition to him...
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"Full of peace" implies "empty of war." We know that was not the case.
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Spreading religion through violence doesn't sound particularly peaceful to me.
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I suspect that the violence comes from the concept of purity that seems to be so important in islam. That leads to many kinds of cruelty, such as honour killings and the like. If anyone who disagrees in a matter of religion is seen as impure, it is a very short step to deciding that they should be eliminated. As a result, we see muslims attacking not only non-muslims but also other varieties of muslim.
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I think he was peaceful. I read stories about his life, and I think he was at least a very progressive man. He treated women better than what was usual at that time. He was against violence, except self-defence. I know he has fought wars, but I don't know enough about that part of his life to have an opinion about it.
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