A "gay" Episcopal priest's view of marriage

[LittleNipper]

The Episcopal Church's first openly gay male priest went on to question the relevancy of monogamy altogether during an address about what he termed "sex-positive" theology soon after his ordination in 1989.

"My position on sexual exclucsivity ... is that it is NOT in fact a requirement for a validChristia marriage." So stated Father Robert Williams, whose contovercial views led to his departure from the Episcopal Church. He went on to die of AIDS complications in 1992.
A strict form of monogamous sexual fedelity, he noted, is "anoption some couples CHOOSE. Others do not, and yet have life-long, grace-filled, covenant relationships." Regardless of how shortened they may become ---- it would seem.

[Engyo]

Hi, LN -

So, anything you don't like, or choose, is automatically wrong or evil? Do I get to hand down the same sorts of judgements? What if we disagree?

[Dunemeister]

I don't think this man's views on marriage was motivated particularly by homosexuality, so I'm unclear why that is central to this issue. It seems rather that he was simply unable to form lasting romantic commitments, a fault to be seen in a large segment of the population. What's ridiculous is his attempt to make such a failing consistent with Christian faith. I suppose it's also okay to commit to one religion faithfully, then another, then another, then another. This may be a lot of things, but it's not Christian. It also emasculates the idea of fidelity. Serial monogomy can't be turned into faithfulness.

[Dunemeister]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Hi, LN -

So, anything you don't like, or choose, is automatically wrong or evil? Do I get to hand down the same sorts of judgements? What if we disagree?

Yawn.

[tumbleweed41]

Originally Posted by LittleNipper

The Episcopal Church's first openly gay male priest went on to question the relevancy of monogamy altogether during an address about what he termed "sex-positive" theology soon after his ordination in 1989.

"My position on sexual exclucsivity ... is that it is NOT in fact a requirement for a validChristia marriage." So stated Father Robert Williams, whose contovercial views led to his departure from the Episcopal Church. He went on to die of AIDS complications in 1992.
A strict form of monogamous sexual fedelity, he noted, is "anoption some couples CHOOSE. Others do not, and yet have life-long, grace-filled, covenant relationships." Regardless of how shortened they may become ---- it would seem.

First off, when cutting and pasting (or typing a copy yourself) an article, forum rules require you to site your source.

Source for mentioned article.

Second, your attempts at flame-baiting in the Debate section of the forum should at least include a question or statement presenting your stance on the supposed issue.

And lastly, presenting the views of one controversial former gay minister is fine, as long as you understand one person does not represent the rest. Just as you do not represent all of Christianity.

[Zorro1227]

Originally Posted by LittleNipper

The Episcopal Church's first openly gay male priest went on to question the relevancy of monogamy altogether during an address about what he termed "sex-positive" theology soon after his ordination in 1989.

"My position on sexual exclucsivity ... is that it is NOT in fact a requirement for a validChristia marriage." So stated Father Robert Williams, whose contovercial views led to his departure from the Episcopal Church. He went on to die of AIDS complications in 1992.
A strict form of monogamous sexual fedelity, he noted, is "anoption some couples CHOOSE. Others do not, and yet have life-long, grace-filled, covenant relationships." Regardless of how shortened they may become ---- it would seem.

First of all you need to learn how to cite things. I completely agree with his statement (that is if this is a true statement). Of course I have no idea why you are still pushing this homosexual issue. Guess what LN? I love women and I am completely attracted to them and men. Do you really think these posts are going to change my mind? Or anyone's for that matter?

[Autodidact]

LN: What are you so obsessed with gay people?

[Storm]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

LN: What are you so obsessed with gay people?

[LittleNipper]

Originally Posted by Engyo

Hi, LN -

So, anything you don't like, or choose, is automatically wrong or evil? Do I get to hand down the same sorts of judgements? What if we disagree?

By their fruits ye shall know them. In this case , I'd have to say that contracting AIDS was the DIRECT result of this priest's selected lifestyle. If one lives by the sword, one will likely die by the sword. Such logic is irrefutable.

[Kilgore Trout]

Originally Posted by Autodidact

LN: What are you so obsessed with gay people?

Guilty feelings associated with latent or suppressed homosexuality can cause extreme homophobia.